Serial origamist Has Achieved Nirvana
| Sounds perfectly reasonable. Go with it. -------------------------------- pj, citizen-poster, unless specifically noted otherwise.
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(self-titled) semi-posting lurker Minor Deity
| quote: If there are no positive test results when they update the website at 5pm today, then I should be able to assume we tested negative. I’m also assuming if we tested positive, somebody would contact us. Right?
That mostly makes sense. I would still plan to self-quarantine as much as possible though, for two reasons: 1) if you should turn out to be positive, well, obviously you'll want to avoid giving it to others. 2) If you both don't have coronavirus, you do have something else and are probably immune-compromised. So you don't want to risk encountering the virus in your current compromised state. Still sending healing thoughts your way!! |
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| It gets more complicated - one of my nieghbors (who is in healthcare) just messaged me that she heard this morning that it’s taking up to 5 days to get results. So now I’m not even sure what to think. What a disaster. -------------------------------- Jodi
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| quote: Originally posted by wtg: I think I'd sit tight till you get the news directly. Who knows how often that site is being updated?
The site is updated every day at 5pm. But now I’m not sure how long it takes for results. (As per my post above). -------------------------------- Jodi
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Serial origamist Has Achieved Nirvana
| I'm leaning with Cindy on this one. Would knowing change your treatment plan? You're already hunkering down. Wear a mask if you go out to avoid spreading whatever you have to others. I think the one reason to know is that if you got it and recovered, you are, theoretically, now immune. -------------------------------- pj, citizen-poster, unless specifically noted otherwise.
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Has Achieved Nirvana
| It’s not so much about treatment. I don’t want to infect anybody else. My horse is at a stable where the trainer is immunocompromised, If I have Coronavirus, I’m not going to go out there until I’m not carrying it anymore. If I just have a run of the mill cold, I’m not as worried. -------------------------------- Jodi
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| So yes, I guess on Sunday if I haven’t heard, I will go with a mask and gloves and hold my horse for the farrier(if I cant find anybody else to do it) I don’t know - this is all so crazy. -------------------------------- Jodi
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Minor Deity
| quote: theoretically, now immune.
Really? I had heard that one does not develop immunity and can get it again... Things are shutting down quickly here...schools, activities etc. food stores running out of food before noon... Lined up at 7am / no parking, no carriages, no toiletries, no food by 9 No confirmed because no tests available -------------------------------- The earth laughs in flowers
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Minor Deity
| I doubt those tales are true and are probably more the result of false positive tests. If you didn't develop antibodies you would not recover. -------------------------------- "A mob is a place where people go to get away from their conscience" Atticus Finch
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| What we know about immunity. quote: What could be worse than getting the pneumonia-like illness now known as Covid-19? Getting it twice.
That’s what Japanese government officials say may have happened to a female tour bus guide in Osaka. The woman was first diagnosed with Covid-19 in late January, according to a statement released by Osaka’s prefectural government Wednesday. She was discharged shortly after, once her symptoms had improved. A subsequent test came back negative for the virus. Three weeks later she returned with a sore throat and chest pain and tested again. For a second time, she tested positive for Covid-19.
News reports detailing the case raised the possibility that people may not be developing immunity to the new coronavirus, even after they’ve recovered. But several infectious disease specialists say there’s not enough data to support that conclusion. Another possibility is that the virus subsided and flared up again. (Some viruses tend to do that.) Or the test was simply wrong.
“The question is really: How good is the proof?” says Donald Burke, an international health expert at the University of Pittsburgh. “And we’re a long way away from anything solid. What we need is the sequence of the virus.”
The only way to differentiate between a relapse—meaning the same coronavirus seemed to go away and came back—and reinfection, in which a second strain of coronavirus swooped in just as the first cleared out, is a full viral sequence. The tests currently available for diagnosing Covid-19 are based on a method called RT-PCR, which picks up some pieces of the virus’s genetic code, but not everything. It’s designed to grab only the chunks that are unique to the new coronavirus, but stable enough that they won’t disappear if it mutates. Thanks to some specialized fluorescent dye, the more viral bits there are, the brighter the genetic material glows, creating a pattern of light that signals for the presence of the virus.
In theory, if doctors completely sequenced the virus in a patient’s nose or mouth swab at the time of each positive diagnosis, they could compare each genetic letter using genome-reading software and determine if the person had the same strain of coronavirus or a new one. Without that kind of data, says Burke, there’s no way of knowing for sure.
But others think the more likely scenario is that the virus can just linger in some people’s bodies longer than expected. “I suspect this is in fact a continuation of the original infection,” says Susan Kline, an infectious disease physician and epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota.
For one thing, she says, just not enough time has elapsed for reinfection. In the case of the other coronaviruses people catch, like the ones that cause the common cold, people tend to develop immunity following an infection. But it doesn’t last forever. The body produces antibodies that are protective against subsequent exposures, and then over time that immune response wanes, says Kline. That process usually takes longer than three weeks. “It’s too soon,” says Kline. “This entire outbreak has only been going on for two months. I would be very surprised if people are getting reinfected in that time span.” https://www.wired.com/story/di...ntists-are-skeptical -------------------------------- When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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czarina Has Achieved Nirvana
| quote: Originally posted by jodi: So yes, I guess on Sunday if I haven’t heard, I will go with a mask and gloves and hold my horse for the farrier(if I cant find anybody else to do it) I don’t know - this is all so crazy.
Your farrier will then bring it to me. I'm on his schedule Monday morning. -------------------------------- fear is the thief of dreams
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czarina Has Achieved Nirvana
| But even before I read that, I think you must act "as if" until you get a confirmed negative. Reason: I doubt the state is prompt about anything. And I think you will definitely know before they post anything on the web site. -------------------------------- fear is the thief of dreams
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Minor Deity
| quote: Originally posted by Cindysphinx: Here's a question:
Does it matter whether it is or is not corona?
I'm feeling like I'd rather not bother to get tested because there's nothing I would do differently if the test came back positive. I wouldn't show up at a hospital unless I started showing worrisome symptoms.
Am I wrong?
If you know you are positive, aren’t you going to extra vigilant not to expose others, including in your own home. Jf -------------------------------- Be calm, be brave, it'll be okay.
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