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(self-titled) semi-posting lurker Minor Deity |
Disgraceful.
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(self-titled) semi-posting lurker Minor Deity |
Yes, and I would certainly never criticize them, or anyone, who does this. This whole situation is so horrible. (Meanwhile, our McPresident was on the news in Japan for feeding fast food to the national college football champs )
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Pinta & the Santa Maria Has Achieved Nirvana |
Absolutely. I still don't understand how this is completely legal. I know that several unions and other employee groups are suing the federal government, stating the work without pay portion is a violation of the 13th amendment (involuntary servitude aka slavery). I think the legalese here says the 13th amendment is invalid because the furloughed employees can always quit their jobs (something that isn't typically part of slavery). I don't get it. I think it's one of those deals where, since the constitution doesn't explicitly say "federal employees are guaranteed to be paid for work performed," those in power have chosen to say there is no guarantee (FLSA be damned). I don't get it. It's patently unfair. However, because the employee can "choose" to walk away from their furloughed position, I think it's technically legal. What isn't legal, as far as I can tell, is forcing people to work without pay, period--so I think as long as the working people get back pay, it's legal. For those who are sitting at home, I think they're just out of luck. | |||
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Does This Avatar Make My Butt Look Big? Minor Deity |
It’s a plain old wage violation. You cannot have people volunteer to work for you without pay. You cannot have people work without pay even if you promise you will pay them later. Some years ago, there was a lawsuit against the federal government because they did not compensate people who traveled on weekends or nights. As a result of that suit, we get compensatory time off. That leads me to believe wage laws apply to the federal government. | |||
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Does This Avatar Make My Butt Look Big? Minor Deity |
I think all federal workers should bring a bag of trash to leave in front of the White House. | |||
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
Set it on fire and ring the doorbell.
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Tell that to interns. I have yet to understand why internships do not violate wage and hour laws. | |||
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"I've got morons on my team." Mitt Romney Minor Deity |
Probably because interns are supposedly gaining valuable skills on the job and through explicit training. In the dim past, medical interns weren't paid. They are now... sort of. | |||
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czarina Has Achieved Nirvana |
I think Trump's full intention is to tear down the government and destroy the country. It's hard to come to any other conclusion. McConnell must be indebted to the same powers that installed Trump. We're watching a slow coup.
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
Here are the rules, some of which I do not find particularly persuasive. The only ones that should matter are #'s 2, 3, and 4. And maybe 5, although that's potentially subject to abuse.
https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs71.htm | |||
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
Pelosi writes to the WH telling them to postpone the State of the Union address until after the government is running or deliver it in writing. Citing concerns with DHS and Secret Service resources during shutdown. https://twitter.com/Phil_Matti.../1085544081504260097 David Frum wins the internet today with his line: “No TV for you, Donald, until you finish your homework”
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
That's actually brilliant. | |||
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
I'm not so sure. Congresscritters are there every day; presumably there is some form of security in place. The Tea Party folks wanted to do something similar back in the Obama days. Some discussion here: https://www.outsidethebeltway....-state-of-the-union/ The invite is already out; I think Pelosi extended it immediately after becoming Speaker. Retracting the invite a stunt, and I don't think it's a very effective one.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/1...use-of-shutdown.html From another article:
https://wsau.com/news/articles...ghanistan-and-egypt/
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David Frum: “Pro tip: Don’t get in a power-of-the-purse pissing match with the House of Representatives”
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