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Does This Avatar Make My Butt Look Big? Minor Deity |
How can it not be a landslide? Hundreds of thousands dead in a plague. Millions unemployed. Citizens being gassed and beaten in the streets. This country has not been torn apart like this in my lifetime. In three years, this country has become unrecognizable. If we get four more years of Trump, there might be nothing left. This country needs to unify. Maybe we can unify at getting rid of Trump. | ||
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Minor Deity |
I can't even convince some cousins. They have got to be blind.
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
I never thought landslide was in the cards but before these demonstrations went violent I thought we had a decent chance. But it has to be a referendum on Trump. If it’s a referendum on the demonstrators we’re ******.
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(self-titled) semi-posting lurker Minor Deity |
So how does that happen?
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"I've got morons on my team." Mitt Romney Minor Deity |
The Biden campaign and all the other PACs in support (hear that, Bloomberg) have to frame it that way. That framing has to come early, has to be the central message, and has to stick in the public mind. Moreover, it has to be a central point of most of our Senate and House elections as well. | |||
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
We need millions more to have this light bulb moment.
https://www.newyorker.com/news...ible-and-a-sanctuary I want to hope that there are many more like her, but I'm not optimistic.
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"I've got morons on my team." Mitt Romney Minor Deity |
What does that say about the millions of people who will pull the lever for Trump, many of them voting their fears of black/brown supremacy, many voting to aggressively assert their own supremacy, and many voting smugly because, well, Gorsuch. But then again, we're not supposed to say divisive things about our neighbors. We're supposed to be understanding, and walk in their shoes, and hear their elegies. | |||
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Gadfly |
I dunno. I hope, but I thought it would be a landslide in 2016 too. I will say I went to visit my mom in coal-town northeast PA on Sunday when her stay at home restrictions lifted. Her city has been "taken over" (her words) by Hispanic immigrants over the last 15-20 years - her city made the news maybe 6 years ago for having a mayor who passed some of the most restrictive anti-immigrant laws in the country. (That mayor was promptly elected to the US Congress and I believe is eyeing a Senate run soon....sigh). Anyhow, there were a LOT of Trump 2020 signs hanging everywhere. Like a whole lot. So landslide? I wouldn't count on it. There seems to be a pretty large percentage of people who think he is doing just a bang-up amazing job as president. | |||
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(self-titled) semi-posting lurker Minor Deity |
Ugh. This makes me a little crazy. Like, it's taken you this long to start believing what people have been saying for year, what there is ample evidence for... I mean, thank goodness you've seen the light. But my god, what the hell took you so long? This also points to all the others who still don't see it, refuse to see it....
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Beatification Candidate |
Had a talk the other day with an aunt and uncle after the first night of looting in Chicago. They see the police as that "thin blue line" maintaining peace. They were appalled that the police didn't step in and use force (lethal??) once a window was broken downtown... So yes, there are probably a lot of others looking for stronger police and military action to preserve their version of reality in America.
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"I've got morons on my team." Mitt Romney Minor Deity |
Would they have voted for Biden but for? Do they plan to vote for Trump because of? | |||
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
A landslide I think is too much to hope for. https://patch.com/illinois/arl...over-looters-rioters
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(self-titled) semi-posting lurker Minor Deity |
I often think (perhaps naively) that people who take this view are not thinking out to its logical conclusion. They see those who are breaking windows (etc.) as criminals. Not as citizens pushed to the breaking point. And so, when an increasingly militaristic reaction occurs, they don't see it as "the US military turning on its own citizens." Which is what I see. This difference of interpretation will cause (is already causing) a fundamental rift. This country is coming apart, and I don't know what can stop it.
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Beatification Candidate |
They voted for Trump... because of abortion. So who knows???
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
All but one member of my family will vote for Trump. They are angry at the protesters and would ignore a mass shooting of them. There are millions like them. Putin will have an effect on the vote count again.
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