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Some buzz from press on Twitter that it is being discussed. Tonight would be a great time to do it...everyone is in the Capital, Trump is silenced on social media. Pence and McConnell have certainly changed their tunes today. Might they try to get it done by morning? A girl can dream. ![]()
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And then bundle him off to an institution. Blame it on Covid-brain or whatever...
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David Frum thinks Trump needs to go. Tonight. https://www.theatlantic.com/id...rump-tonight/617576/
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Does This Avatar Make My Butt Look Big? Minor Deity ![]() |
You need 2/3 of house and senate. | |||
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To be honest, I don’t think I want to go that far. I still believe there are enough sane people in Congress, in the courts, and in the armed forces, to prevent Trump from actually creating a bigger riot or bigger insurrection without having to formally remove Trump from office between now and Biden getting sworn in.
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Serial origamist Has Achieved Nirvana ![]() |
That's not how I read it. I think you just need a simple majority of Congress (not even each house).
I think the Congress can name itself as "such other body" and proceed. An impeachment conviction requires 2/3 of the Senate.
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I think Cindy is right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._States_Constitution
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Well, she is a lawyer and I'm not. Also, if one is impeached and convicted, the Senate can also impose the penalty that the subject is prohibited from holding any elected office. In my opinion, that needs to be done in this case.
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One news pundit mentioned this. The idea is that Pence would take over immediately, and they could just let the clock run out. The new admin would be in place before the 21 days.
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Reports are that members of the Cabinet are discussing the 25th. Also that Trump is isolated (not taking calls or talking to people). And angry. That's a very dangerous combination. edit: And other members of the administration are weighing whether to stay or resign. Apparently they are getting calls from the outside asking them to stay so that it doesn't create a (more) dangerous void.
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You know, BL, that's a brilliant solution. Takes the country out of the hands of a madman, allows the Biden team to do as much transition as they can in the next two weeks. And it's lawful. Win-win-win.
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Does This Avatar Make My Butt Look Big? Minor Deity ![]() |
Nah. I just googled. I have no expertise. I think that the 2/3 comes into play if the president disputes it. So if the president is in a coma, Pence + majority of cabinet works. If the president objects, you need Pence + majority of cabinet, plus 2/3 of both houses. I think Congress need not wait 21 days. They just cannot sit on it past 21 days. Trump hasn't tweeted all day. There is clearly something happening . . . | |||
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Not that wiki is the definitive authority, but here;s what they have about the relevant section of the 25th.
We'd probably get stuck at the President's response; the president's attorney Rudy is unlikely to send it to the right people and it would die on those grounds....
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21 days gets us there. Pence has to be furious about trump’s comments last night. Jf
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I have changed my mind. Invoking the 25th or impeaching him will give him another battle he will try to win. We should wait him out. | |||
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