You're wrong. She has the soul of a crusader.

She has a great mind and all the right values and a very strong will. She's also prepared for this moment. But I worry that all of that isn't tempered by realism.

This is the kind of thing a crusader says, Jon.

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[S]hort of a Democratic majority in the Senate, you better understand the fight still goes on. It starts in the White House, and it means that everybody we energize in 2020 stays on the frontlines come January 2021. We have to push from the outside, have leadership from the inside, and make this Congress reflect the will of the people.

Yeah, maybe crusader is better. Autocrats can be pragmatic and usually prefer quiet victories over noble defeats.


I don’t think she has the right values, so much as the values that are being selected for in these tribal times. She’s Manichean to the core.

She has a lot of overlap with Bernie, but without Bernie's all-encompassing narcissism and without his desire to destroy anyone who is mostly but not completely aligned with him.

The Twitter take that PD posted has it exactly right.

Some of the commentary on Beto is just vicious.

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It’s that line from Veep — he was producing “noise-shaped air.”

http://nymag.com/intelligencer...o-booker-warren.html

I think Liz just killed any chances. With one word.

Question: End private health insurance? Medicare for all?

Warren: Yes.


This destroys her candidacy. Not because of her actual position, and not for the detailed and somewhat nuanced explanation that followed. But Trump will latch onto that and repeat it hundreds of thousands of times: "Elizabeth Warren (or the racist nickname that Trump calls her) will take away your health care. Period."

That's all he needs. She's a Bernie-ish Socialist. Gummint takeover of your health care.

If she wins the primary, she just lost the general election.


Sad!

Politico likened it to the Willie Horton episode.

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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:


The Twitter take that PD posted has it exactly right.

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One of the stupidest moments I recall was, late in the debate, when the moderators asked for the candidates to say what they felt was the biggest threat to the USA, in 1 word. First, the challenge was 1 word. These people aren't exactly the souls of brevity. But everyone was blathering away (China, China, nukes, etc.) until Inslee's turn, when he said climate change. Then the rest of the candidates: China (and climate change), Iran (and climate change), etc. It was like they thought, "Oh shoot, I forgot I was supposed to talk about climate change."

The insta-viral moment: Someone's response: "Donald Trump."

My impressions align with most of yours: I thought Warren and Booker did well, Castro did surprisingly well, and I was unimpressed with Di Blasio and Tim Ryan. I wish I could have heard more from Tulsi, but no way is she RFPT. Klobuchar? meh. I'd still vote for any of them over Trump.

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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:
The Twitter take that PD posted has it exactly right.

Me too, I forwarded that widely, but that was really about their supporters, not the candidates themselves.

By the way, one of the winners last night was Mitch McConnell. He got excellent airtime, from the moderators as well as the candidates. And all of it was (to him and the people he cares about) quite flattering.

The whole premise of the questions was that he's the rock-solid defense preventing them from implementing their agenda. Couldn't flatter him more.

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Originally posted by jon-nyc:
By the way, one of the winners last night was Mitch McConnell. He got excellent airtime, from the moderators as well as the candidates. And all of it was (to him and the people he cares about) quite flattering.

The whole premise of the questions was that he's the rock-solid defense preventing them from implementing their agenda. Couldn't flatter him more.

I’ll go so far as to say McConnell swept the whole thing.

College loan forgiveness is the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard, unless you count reparations. At that point reparations become the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard.

I fear we are doomed.

THANK YOU Kamala!!!!

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"America does not want a food fight. They want to know how to put food on their table" -- Harris

I watched 10 minutes of tonight’s debate and shut it off.

Please just kill me now.

Harris is in control. I'm really impressed with her. Pete too.