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Originally posted by Mary Anna:
I agree on all points but one. I think she did know the history of white women claiming that black men menaced them and she knew that this history was on her side.

Why else would she specify that an African American man was menacing her? It was code that he was dangerous, true, but it was also code that she was in particular danger as a vulnerable and desirable white woman.

The whole thing is disgusting. And so is the situation in Minneapolis. We've only just been subjected to footage of white people parading their guns through state capitals without becoming the target of tear gas and rubber bullets. And now they're being used on unarmed protesters?

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Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
I’ll admit that I immediately took her for a wealthy, educated, privileged white woman. Part of this is the behavior and the outfit. And walking a dog in Central Park early in the morning.

But part of it is that the internet calls her a “Karen,” which biased me.

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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:

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Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
I’ll admit that I immediately took her for a wealthy, educated, privileged white woman. Part of this is the behavior and the outfit. And walking a dog in Central Park early in the morning.

But part of it is that the internet calls her a “Karen,” which biased me.

She was identified by someone who was a dog-walker for her. She worked at Franklin Templeton at a professional-level job. So she was clearly well off (maybe not wealthy, but certainly comfortable), educated, and DEFINITELY privileged. And she was clearly weaponizing the "white woman threatened by black man" meme. I have zero sympathy for her.

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Originally posted by kluurs:
Yeah, I sometimes feel badly for someone who, in anger or a state of high emotion, says something stupid. It is natural to not like to be called out for violating a social norm. I had someone at work tell me he was offended by my profanity when I used the word "damned." It took restraint not to use a different swear word not to respond. But Amy not only notified police but acted out with her voice that she was in physical danger.

This public defender explains what could have happened without the video.

"A white person calls the police on a black man. The police arrive and take the side of his white accuser, refusing to believe his version of events. He is arrested and arraigned. An outrageous bail amount is set. His family can’t afford to buy his freedom. He gets sent to Rikers Island, where he sits for days, months or sometimes years.

Eventually, his case is resolved in some way — either because the charges are dismissed or because he decides to plead guilty to a lesser charge. In the meantime, he may have lost his job, his home, his children or some combination of the three.

Nothing like that happened to Cooper, thankfully. But the elements of the problem are plain to see."

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Originally posted by Cindysphinx:

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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:

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Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
I’ll admit that I immediately took her for a wealthy, educated, privileged white woman. Part of this is the behavior and the outfit. And walking a dog in Central Park early in the morning.

But part of it is that the internet calls her a “Karen,” which biased me.

She was identified by someone who was a dog-walker for her. She worked at Franklin Templeton at a professional-level job. So she was clearly well off (maybe not wealthy, but certainly comfortable), educated, and DEFINITELY privileged. And she was clearly weaponizing the "white woman threatened by black man" meme. I have zero sympathy for her.

I know. But tell the truth. Did anyone assume she was educated, white, and privileged before these details came out? I did.

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Did anyone assume she was educated, white, and privileged before these details came out? I did.

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You calmly ask someone to do the right thing (say, ask them to move their cart to the shopping cart holder instead of abandoning it where it is a menace to parked cars, and they lose their minds