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Trump was impeached days after Jan 6 happened. It was folly to go after him then. There wasn't time to gather evidence and present a coherent case. But I'll say it again: It's important work and it needs to be done. And now is the time.
On this we agree. I repeat my comment from above, where I acknowledge that people are focused on matters other than the Jan 6 committee:
And then I go on to say "someone has to address...." and talk about members of the committee who are doing the investigation. From your previous comments, I've been getting the impression you think the Jan 6 Committee never should have been formed, and that the members shouldn't be doing this investigation. But communicating on a forum like this can be tricky and I may be completely misunderstanding what you're saying. So, do you think the committee should exist, and that it should be doing an investigation?
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BTW, are you old enough to remember Watergate? The tide turned pretty slowly with respect to public opinion on that one, too.....
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Sources close to the Secret Service say that Engel and the unnamed driver who were in the car with the TIC when he allegedly grabbed the steering wheel are saying that one or both of them may testify at a future hearing. I've heard two versions of what they might say, that they will "push back hard" on the story or say that it didn't happen. These are the details from the hearing that no one is reporting on. I'm constantly reminded that first sources are best. Cheney does a masterful job of getting some details on the record. From the transcript of the hearing:
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Will Ornato or Engel testify?
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The people in the limo with the TIC (that's Toddler-in-Chief) were Engel and an unnamed driver. News reports are saying that the Secret Service is talking to the Committee and that one or both of them may testify under oath. Sources close to the Secret Service are saying that they will "push back" (that was ABC news take) or deny it happened (Fox News take). When I heard Cheney asking those questions about whether Engel ever corrected Ornato's telling of the story, it was clear she was setting the stage for possible future questioning of Engel and/or Ornato.
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Ornato is the key more than Engel. That's why Cheney asked that particular line of questions. Engel can deny that the supposed events in the "Beast" actually happened, but then he has a problem explaining why he didn't pipe up in that room when Ornato was supposedly explaining to Hutchinson what took place. Hence Cheney's "did Mr. Engel ever correct or disagree" ... If Ornato calls Hutchinson a liar we have "she said against they said." If Ornato backs her up, Engel is in a hot spot. And if there is another witness up Cheney's sleeve that Ornate/Engel don't yet know about ... whoa, some people could be up to their eyeballs in perjury. Do we know who sent the clearly witness tampering emails? | |||
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Yup on the first part of your post. As far as possible witness tampering...Cheney towards the end of the hearing:
The samples are in the transcript I linked to above, almost at the end of the hearing. edit: Seems like she's sending a warning shot across the bow to whoever sent the threatening emails/made the calls. Chairman Bennie added:
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/29...statement/index.html We'll see where things land....I think the committee has some more things up its sleeve...
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Cheney is definitely all-in. From a speech last night.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/29...n-library/index.html
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I don't understand why it exists. Because he was impeached concerning the same matter. | |||
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https://www.politico.com/news/...ry-messages-00043638 So Cheney was definitely sending a message to the Trump World contingent. She did an interview with Jonathan Karl of ABC News yesterday. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...testimony/ar-AAZ1q3I
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