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Britain's vaccine advisers said they were not recommending the vaccination of all 12- to 15-year-olds against COVID-19, preferring a precautionary approach in healthy children due to a rare side effect of heart inflammation.

The advice could see Britain pursue a different approach to the United States, Israel and some European countries, which have rolled out vaccinations to children more broadly.

However a final decision has not been taken, as the British government said it would consult medical advisers to look at other factors, such as disruption to schools.

Many politicians and some scientists have spoken out in favour of vaccinating more children amid concern that COVID-19 could spread in schools that are re-opening after summer holidays, further disrupting education.


https://www.reuters.com/world/...ear-olds-2021-09-03/


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Florida governor lying about COVID deaths.

https://youtu.be/rneLtGpODSk
 
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Vaccine hesitancy has subsided in the face of the delta surge, with the share of Americans who are disinclined to get a coronavirus shot now just half what it was last January.




https://abcnews.go.com/Politic...ll/story?id=79791316


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Originally posted by Daniel:
Florida governor lying about COVID deaths.

https://youtu.be/rneLtGpODSk


Here's the analysis from the Miami Herald.

https://www.miamiherald.com/ne...rticle253796898.html

An interesting note:

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The CDC website listed Florida as one of just 12 jurisdictions — 11 states and New York City — reporting new deaths by date of death as of the end of August. The choice of how to report is determined by each jurisdiction, according to the website.


The question I have is why there isn't a uniform reporting requirement across all jurisdictions.


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Y'all, maybe it's the engineer in me, but it shakes me when our infrastructure is shown to be so close to the edge. It wouldn't take long for things to get really ugly if drinking water were suddenly unavailable.


You don't have to be an engineer to be terrified at what's happening....

I think very few people, or maybe the correct way to say it is, not enough people really grasp the many ways we will all be impacted by hospitals overflowing... I think it's completely "out of sight, out of mind" for so many people.

And those guns won't do them any good at dealing with a water supply problem... or after getting in a car accident and discovering they can't have their otherwise totally survivable injuries treated.


Yes. Out of sight, out of mind.

Then again, people should know better by now.

It has been eighteen months. It has been in the media every day.

I guess this is what happens when your society has taboos about both sickness and death, a for profit health care system, and a large number of people who are either stupid or superstitious.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by wtg:

Thanks, wtg.

Interesting. Florida changed the way it reported in August.

The corruption and incompetence surrounding this pandemic are seemly endless.

So frustrating.
 
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Small study, but...

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Antibodies produced by the Pfizer vaccine against Covid-19 decreased more than 80 per cent after six months in some elderly people, according to a study that emphasizes the need for booster shots.

Researchers from the Universities of Case Western Reserve, Brown and Harvard studied blood samples of 120 Ohio nursing home residents and 92 health care workers.


https://www.businessinsider.in...cleshow/85890796.cms


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Our body's vaccine immunity has a backup plan...

https://capsimmunesystem.org/c...m-has-a-backup-plan/

"Wherry’s group found that memory B cells generated by the mRNA vaccines made by Moderna Inc. and Pfizer Inc. and its partner BioNTech SE appeared better at blocking virus variants including alpha, beta and delta, than those produced in response to a mild case of Covid-19.

Additionally, high levels of vaccine-induced T cells, a type of white blood cell capable of finding and killing virus-infected cells, were detected after six months, “maintaining an additional armor to protect us,” Wherry said.

The findings help to explain why immunization remains effective at protecting against severe Covid-19, hospitalization and death even as more break-through infections occur.

“We’re seeing a drop in efficacy when you only measure whether people get infected, but really, really steady immunity if you’re measuring severe-disease outcomes,” Wherry said. “That fits with the idea that circulating antibodies are going to protect you from infection, but memory B cells and memory T cells, while they may not eliminate the ability to have some virus in your nose, they’re actually going to prevent severe disease.”"


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That's welcome news....

And on the crazies front...

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Angry QAnon backers want hospital to treat supporter’s COVID-19 with unapproved drug

QAnon supporters have in recent days targeted Amita Resurrection Medical Center with a protest and a flood of phone calls demanding that doctors give a hospitalized ally ivermectin.


https://chicago.suntimes.com/n...l-ivermectin-patient


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Sorry, couldn't find a non-paywall version.

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Biden’s Vaccine Mandate Is a Big Mistake


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/0...vaccine-mandate.html


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Ooh, mustn’t make the refuseniks unhappy!


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I wouldn't be surprised to find out that a vaccine mandate could fall under the broad umbrella of "national security" bringing the Patriot Act into play...


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Booster or not...

https://www.nbcnews.com/health...oosters-all-n1279070


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Natural immunity vs vaccination.

https://www.rockefeller.edu/ne...dy-responses-emerge/


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From that last article"
"When to administer the booster depends on the object of boosting,” he says. “If the goal is to prevent infection, then boosting will need to be done after 6 to 18 months depending on the immune status of the individual. If the goal is to prevent serious disease boosting may not be necessary for years.”"

That's something that the US hasn't really come to decide - what is our goal when it comes to COVID? It's the central question that should be driving decisions, yet hardly gets serious public consideration.


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