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That was an interesting read, thanks for posting it.


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Well, if someone screwed up royally, I would expect them to duck for whatever cover they could find. If there is a human component in the propagation of the virus, I'd be very, very much surprised if anyone would own up to contributing to that, given the subsequent world-wide pandemic.

If there is in fact an accidental human component in the propagation, then we should be doing everything possible to prevent such an accident from recurring, but the desire to place blame works in direct opposition to identifying such a component.

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What Big Al said. ^^^^


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Latest word from China is that COVID came into Wuhan in a shipment of lobsters from Maine.

https://www.seafoodsource.com/...aine-lobster-company


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Latest word from China is that COVID came into Wuhan in a shipment of lobsters from Maine.

https://www.seafoodsource.com/...aine-lobster-company

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With just about the same level of evidence as the "created in a lab" story.... Leaving


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Everyone can have an opinion. But, what that story suggests is that there is evidence to support a range of possibilities. The real answer, which is frequently the answer, is that we don't know.

We can guess, but guesses often reveal our biases.
 
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Latest word from China is that COVID came into Wuhan in a shipment of lobsters from Maine.

https://www.seafoodsource.com/...aine-lobster-company


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I think we can say confidently it did not start with frozen Maine lobster!


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Yglesias goes down the rabbit hole to chase the COVID lab leak story....story is from May, but there's lots of good info here:

https://www.slowboring.com/p/t...dias-lab-leak-fiasco


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Latest word from China is that COVID came into Wuhan in a shipment of lobsters from Maine.

https://www.seafoodsource.com/...aine-lobster-company


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An unlikely tail. They are just clawing at excuses.


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Don't get all steamed up! Big Grin
 
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Another shell game.


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https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4454

"Thus, 10 of these hospitals’ 19 earliest COVID-19 cases were linked to Huanan Market (~53%), comparable both to Jinyintan’s 66% (of 41 cases) (4) and to the WHO-China report’s 33% of 168 retrospectively identified cases across December 2019 (1). Regarding cases at the Wuhan Central Hospital and HPHICWM, patients with a history of exposure at Huanan Market could not have been “cherry picked” before anyone had identified the market as an epidemiologic risk factor. Hence, there was a genuine preponderance of early COVID-19 cases associated with Huanan Market."


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