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Originally posted by Piano*Dad:

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For you to say that Zelensky is in any manner equivalent to Putin pretty much inclines me to disregard and disqualify anything you have to say on the topic.

Did that long ago ...

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Originally posted by Daniel:

Zelensky was installed by the US in a coup in 2014. With all due respect, it's a fact that he's not a democratic leader. I'd advise you to research before accusing me of being incorrect about this.

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Ukrainian comedian Volodymyr Zelensky has scored a landslide victory in the country's presidential election.

With nearly all ballots counted in the run-off vote, Mr Zelensky had taken more than 73% with incumbent Petro Poroshenko trailing far behind on 24%.

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Ukraine pulled off the March 31 election with no major hitch. Voting and ballot-counting proceeded smoothly. The Central Election Commission’s vote tallies corresponded with exit poll results and a non-governmental parallel count. The International Election Observer Mission (IEOM) released a preliminary assessment that noted some problems but termed the election competitive, reported that candidates campaigned freely, and said that the electorate had a broad choice.

The fact that Ukraine held a free, competitive presidential election should come as no surprise. The previous four presidential votes—the third round of the 2004 election (after the Supreme Court ordered a rerun of the run-off following the Orange Revolution), the general and run-off rounds of the 2010 election, and the 2014 election after the Maidan Revolution—all earned free, fair, and competitive assessments. Another indicator of a free and fair election: While he made it to the run-off, incumbent President Petro Poroshenko came in a distant second.

Sadly, Ukraine’s democratic experience remains a relative rarity in the post-Soviet space.

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Originally posted by Daniel:

Zelensky was installed by the US in a coup in 2014. With all due respect, it's a fact that he's not a democratic leader. I'd advise you to research before accusing me of being incorrect about this.

Zelensky has been and is committing war crimes against the ethnic Russian population.

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In August 2014, Zelenskyy spoke out against the intention of the Ukrainian Ministry of Culture to ban Russian artists from Ukraine. Since 2015, Ukraine has banned Russian artists and other Russian works of culture from entering Ukraine. In 2018, the romantic comedy Love in the Big City 2 starring Zelenskyy was banned in Ukraine.

After the Ukrainian media had reported that during the Russo-Ukrainian War Zelenskyy's Kvartal 95 had donated ₴1 million to the Ukrainian army, some Russian politicians and artists petitioned for a ban on his works in Russia. Once again, Zelenskyy spoke out against the intention of the Ukrainian Ministry of Culture to ban Russian artists from Ukraine.


In 2015, Zelenskyy became the star of the television series Servant of the People, where he played the role of the president of Ukraine. In the series, Zelenskyy's character was a high-school history teacher in his 30s who won the presidential election after a viral video showed him ranting against government corruption in Ukraine.

The comedy series Svaty ("In-laws"), in which Zelenskyy appeared, was banned in Ukraine in 2017, but unbanned in March 2019.]

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Originally posted by wtg:

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Originally posted by Daniel:

Zelensky was installed by the US in a coup in 2014. With all due respect, it's a fact that he's not a democratic leader. I'd advise you to research before accusing me of being incorrect about this.

Zelensky has been and is committing war crimes against the ethnic Russian population.

Zelensky took office in May 2019. And before that...from Wikipedia:

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In August 2014, Zelenskyy spoke out against the intention of the Ukrainian Ministry of Culture to ban Russian artists from Ukraine. Since 2015, Ukraine has banned Russian artists and other Russian works of culture from entering Ukraine. In 2018, the romantic comedy Love in the Big City 2 starring Zelenskyy was banned in Ukraine.

After the Ukrainian media had reported that during the Russo-Ukrainian War Zelenskyy's Kvartal 95 had donated ₴1 million to the Ukrainian army, some Russian politicians and artists petitioned for a ban on his works in Russia. Once again, Zelenskyy spoke out against the intention of the Ukrainian Ministry of Culture to ban Russian artists from Ukraine.


In 2015, Zelenskyy became the star of the television series Servant of the People, where he played the role of the president of Ukraine. In the series, Zelenskyy's character was a high-school history teacher in his 30s who won the presidential election after a viral video showed him ranting against government corruption in Ukraine.

The comedy series Svaty ("In-laws"), in which Zelenskyy appeared, was banned in Ukraine in 2017, but unbanned in March 2019.]

Could you provide some links (preferably not videos, or at least videos with transcripts) regarding the war crimes that Zelensky's government is alleged to have committed against Russians?

edit: And also how he was installed by the US?

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Originally posted by Daniel:

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Originally posted by wtg:

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Originally posted by Daniel:

Zelensky was installed by the US in a coup in 2014. With all due respect, it's a fact that he's not a democratic leader. I'd advise you to research before accusing me of being incorrect about this.

Zelensky has been and is committing war crimes against the ethnic Russian population.

Zelensky took office in May 2019. And before that...from Wikipedia:

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In August 2014, Zelenskyy spoke out against the intention of the Ukrainian Ministry of Culture to ban Russian artists from Ukraine. Since 2015, Ukraine has banned Russian artists and other Russian works of culture from entering Ukraine. In 2018, the romantic comedy Love in the Big City 2 starring Zelenskyy was banned in Ukraine.

After the Ukrainian media had reported that during the Russo-Ukrainian War Zelenskyy's Kvartal 95 had donated ₴1 million to the Ukrainian army, some Russian politicians and artists petitioned for a ban on his works in Russia. Once again, Zelenskyy spoke out against the intention of the Ukrainian Ministry of Culture to ban Russian artists from Ukraine.


In 2015, Zelenskyy became the star of the television series Servant of the People, where he played the role of the president of Ukraine. In the series, Zelenskyy's character was a high-school history teacher in his 30s who won the presidential election after a viral video showed him ranting against government corruption in Ukraine.

The comedy series Svaty ("In-laws"), in which Zelenskyy appeared, was banned in Ukraine in 2017, but unbanned in March 2019.]

Could you provide some links (preferably not videos, or at least videos with transcripts) regarding the war crimes that Zelensky's government is alleged to have committed against Russians?

edit: And also how he was installed by the US?

You are adrift on this topic.

https://truthout.org/articles/...ia-ukraine-conflict/

As to Zelensky committing war crimes against ethnic Russians, it's been happening since 2014 in the form of shelling the civilian population.

Google is your friend.

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Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
Russian BMP drives up to Ukrainian positions to surrender

Daniel, you are entitled to all of your opinions, however ill-formed they are. People offer you serious challenges and you rebut them with grunts like "naive." You offer assertions AS evidence, and when pushed lead us to total BS websites and clear propaganda. So you go on believing whatever it is you want to believe. The rest of us will reason carefully through the minefield of google and rely on people who truly have expertise on foreign policy and military matters.

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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:

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Originally posted by Daniel:

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Originally posted by wtg:

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Originally posted by Daniel:

Zelensky was installed by the US in a coup in 2014. With all due respect, it's a fact that he's not a democratic leader. I'd advise you to research before accusing me of being incorrect about this.

Zelensky has been and is committing war crimes against the ethnic Russian population.

Zelensky took office in May 2019. And before that...from Wikipedia:

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In August 2014, Zelenskyy spoke out against the intention of the Ukrainian Ministry of Culture to ban Russian artists from Ukraine. Since 2015, Ukraine has banned Russian artists and other Russian works of culture from entering Ukraine. In 2018, the romantic comedy Love in the Big City 2 starring Zelenskyy was banned in Ukraine.

After the Ukrainian media had reported that during the Russo-Ukrainian War Zelenskyy's Kvartal 95 had donated ₴1 million to the Ukrainian army, some Russian politicians and artists petitioned for a ban on his works in Russia. Once again, Zelenskyy spoke out against the intention of the Ukrainian Ministry of Culture to ban Russian artists from Ukraine.


In 2015, Zelenskyy became the star of the television series Servant of the People, where he played the role of the president of Ukraine. In the series, Zelenskyy's character was a high-school history teacher in his 30s who won the presidential election after a viral video showed him ranting against government corruption in Ukraine.

The comedy series Svaty ("In-laws"), in which Zelenskyy appeared, was banned in Ukraine in 2017, but unbanned in March 2019.]

Could you provide some links (preferably not videos, or at least videos with transcripts) regarding the war crimes that Zelensky's government is alleged to have committed against Russians?

edit: And also how he was installed by the US?

You are adrift on this topic.

https://truthout.org/articles/...ia-ukraine-conflict/

As to Zelensky committing war crimes against ethnic Russians, it's been happening since 2014 in the form of shelling the civilian population.

Google is your friend.

Yes, and so is Find. That article does not mention Zelensky, according to Find.

I don't remember the last time I was called naive. So that was new.