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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:

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Originally posted by jon-nyc:
I think you’re wrong on two fronts. She’s no moderate. Secondly, to appreciate her as the woman ‘with a plan for that’ you really have to avoid looking too deeply at the plan and it’s easily foreseeable unintended consequences. Crucially, you have to ignore incentive effects. Really, you have to just read her stated goals for the plan and judge it based on those. Fortunately for her, that’s as far as most people get.

First, I didn’t say she was a moderate. Nice straw man. I said, she’s a candidate for educated and thoughtful left-leaning moderates. She’s not as far left as Bernie, but she can appeal to the “I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue!” Bernie brigade. She doesn’t suffer from a Biden’s foot in mouth disease either.

Second, her plans are actual plans. Maybe some of us don’t see the same downsides you do, but the smug way you’ve rejected her all along ... even before she had plans for you to throw darts at ... has always suggested that there was something else at play.

In any event, I have little patience for anyone who claims that they aren’t a Republican but is unwilling to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. I’ll hold my nose and vote for Bernie, or Biden, or even Tulsi.