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Malwarebytes blocks that website due to "PUPs".
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I don't know why it's blocked, it appears to be a newspaper site. | |||
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Interesting article. Hard to believe this happens in this day and age. The PUPs thing appears to be the fault of the overzealous use of data harvesting. Surprised the paper would do that.
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(self-titled) semi-posting lurker Minor Deity |
Based on websites for local papers around here, I have the impression that smaller newspapers actually do that a lot. That's probably how they pay their bills. As for the original topic, I don't understand what goes through people's heads. >_<
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Pinta & the Santa Maria Has Achieved Nirvana |
I'm surprised that it was documented. OK, not that surprised. People are stupid and don't always know when to stop talking. | |||
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
When institutions solve for a particular ethnic mix in their hiring then individuals will be discriminated against. It's tautologically true. As Chief Justice Roberts once said, the way to end racial discrimination is to stop discriminating by race.
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
That's a little bit like saying, hey, I know you have underdeveloped leg muscles, because we made sure you weren't fed properly or given a chance for regular exercise. But now it's time to run a race, and the only fair way is to put everyone in the starting blocks and may the best person win. There's a reason why affirmative action has been and continues to be necessary. We all hope for a time when it will be unnecessary, but that time is not now. | |||
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(self-titled) semi-posting lurker Minor Deity |
What Quirt said.
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
No, it's not at all like saying that. I made the simple factual statement that hiring to achieve an ethnic balance requires discrimination. Your post is more of a normative statement expressing the opinion that sometimes discrimination based on ethnicity is justified. Really the two posts are totally orthogonal.
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
Your post had a clear implication. I was disputing that implication. If you truly do not understand how a reasonable person could see that implication, try this:
If you disagree with the implication, you should say so, rather than hiding behind "I didn't use those words". The failure to disavow the clear implication itself has an implication. | |||
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Pinta & the Santa Maria Has Achieved Nirvana |
It is illegal to hire based on race. Full stop. | |||
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
Is it illegal to use race as a consideration? I don't think so. After all, isn't affirmative action still viable in some contexts? https://ballotpedia.org/Federa...-discrimination_laws So maybe not full stop. | |||
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
Hey, Nina, a federal judge just upheld Harvard's race-conscious admissions policy.
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/01...d-in-admissions-case And there is this, in the last sentence of the article:
I recognize that that isn't the same as a hiring decision, and there are additional factors at play in college admissions (the desire to create a sufficiently diverse student body), but it's analogous. | |||
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