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Jeffrey Epstein has committed suicide

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10 August 2019, 09:09 AM
wtg
Jeffrey Epstein has committed suicide
Happened overnight. Waiting for the conservative nutjobs to say it's a Clinton hit....


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10 August 2019, 09:30 AM
Piano*Dad
Without knowing any more than reading the NY Times account, it's hard not to conclude, tentatively, that

a) Manhattan jail authorities are criminally negligent.

b) Someone may have kinda sorta allowed this to happen.


The man had clearly tried to hang himself a few weeks ago.
10 August 2019, 01:45 PM
jon-nyc
If you think you’re surprised Epstein killed himself last night, imagine how surprised he must have been.


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10 August 2019, 02:23 PM
Piano*Dad
Well, I will wait for more evidence before I conclude that he was murdered.
10 August 2019, 02:29 PM
wtg
Same here. Too many conspiracy theories to choose from.

quote:
Last month, a week after being denied bail on federal sex trafficking charges, Mr. Epstein was found unconscious in his cell at the jail with marks on his neck. Prison officials had been investigating that incident as a possible suicide attempt.

Mr. Epstein had been on suicide watch after he was found injured on July 23 and received a daily psychiatric evaluation, according to a person familiar with his detention. He was removed from suicide watch on July 29 and returned to the special housing unit, a segregated area of the prison with extra security, this person said.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0...epstein-suicide.html


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10 August 2019, 02:36 PM
QuirtEvans
quote:
He was removed from suicide watch on July 29 and returned to the special housing unit, a segregated area of the prison with extra security, this person said.



Who gave that order? Should be easy enough to ascertain. Only six days on suicide watch???

As someone on Twitter said today, suicide watch doesn't mean you watch them commit suicide.

On the plus side, it's my understanding that legal arguments about illegal search and seizure go away, because he was the only one with a cognizable privacy interest. (Just as an example ... if they were his materials, he could have provided them voluntarily to prosecutors and Individual 1 could not have no one could have stopped him.)
10 August 2019, 02:50 PM
Piano*Dad
Epstein's apparent suicide is unfathomable

... lays out the reasons why this should not have been able to happen, yet it did.
10 August 2019, 03:16 PM
Piano*Dad
Laurence Tribe ...

Barr must recuse himself
10 August 2019, 03:44 PM
Piano*Dad
quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
If you think you’re surprised Epstein killed himself last night, imagine how surprised he must have been.


Ah, I just saw this line on twitter!
10 August 2019, 03:52 PM
Steve Miller
quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
If you think you’re surprised Epstein killed himself last night, imagine how surprised he must have been.


Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


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10 August 2019, 06:00 PM
CHAS
quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
If you think you’re surprised Epstein killed himself last night, imagine how surprised he must have been.


Big Grin


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10 August 2019, 07:33 PM
wtg
quote:
Within hours — maybe even minutes — of news breaking that hedge fund manager and convicted sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide in his jail cell, discussion immediately turned to one of Epstein’s most powerful former friends: former President Bill Clinton.

As of this writing, “Clintons” is the number two trending term on Twitter, with basically every top tweet promoting, rebutting, or otherwise discussing conspiracy theories that Bill and/or Hillary Clinton had Epstein murdered. The hashtag #ClintonBodyCount blew up as well, complete with a competing #TrumpBodyCount hashtag popping up in response. And (naturally) right-wing conspiracy theorists are arguing that the latter hashtag’s popularity is a sign of Twitter’s left-wing bias:

My God, they’re already covering it up. Twitter has completely replaced the hashtag #ClintonBodyCount with #TrumpBodyCount on the trending newsfeed even though the numbers were higher.

The media bias is UNREAL at this point. pic.twitter.com/38QBO7HBIB
— Mindy Robinson (@iheartmindy) August 10, 2019

The conspiracy theories even spread within the Trump administration. Lynne Patton, regional administrator at the Department of Housing and Urban Development in charge of New York and a former event planner for the Trump family with no prior experience in housing policy, posted a screenshot of a news story on Epstein’s death to Instagram with the caption “Hillary’d” and the hashtag #VinceFosterPartTwo.


https://www.vox.com/2019/8/10/...eory-jeffrey-epstein

sidebar:

quote:
Lynne Patton, regional administrator at the Department of Housing and Urban Development in charge of New York and a former event planner for the Trump family with no prior experience in housing policy,


Roll Eyes


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10 August 2019, 08:04 PM
ShiroKuro
Wow, I spend 12 hours away from the news and look what happens...


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10 August 2019, 08:19 PM
Piano*Dad
quote:
Within hours — maybe even minutes — of news breaking that hedge fund manager and convicted sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide in his jail cell, discussion immediately turned to one of Epstein’s most powerful former friends: former President Bill Clinton.





... and I'm a Clinton hater from way back.
10 August 2019, 09:26 PM
Daniel
The Clinton stuff is clearly a distraction. I'm trying to find new-worthy facts as opposed to high school gossip.