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| I breezed past a headline this morning, but the gist of it was... a "protester" in the U.S. had a sign that said "Let's be like Sweden", but the irony is that the approach in Sweden is based on an innate trust of the government... the exact opposite of the right-wing mindset. Some of the most dangerous words ever spoken were "government isn't the solution to your problems; government is the problem."
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| quote: Originally posted by pianojuggler:
... a "protester" in the U.S. had a sign that said "Let's be like Sweden", ...
Bet he's gonna love taxing like Sweden. |
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| quote: A new study suggested that only a small percentage of people in Sweden's capital, Stockholm, had developed coronavirus antibodies, casting doubt over whether the country's avoidance of strict lockdown measures is helping the population develop a significant level of immunity.
The study, based on 1,100 tests across Sweden and carried out by the country's public-health agency, found that just 7.3% of people in Stockholm had developed antibodies, Reuters reported on Wednesday.
Experts say populations can achieve so-called herd immunity to a virus when about 60% of people have caught it.
Tom Britton, a professor who helped develop the agency's forecasting model, acknowledged that the calculations may have been wrong.
"It means either the calculations made by the agency and myself are quite wrong, which is possible, but if that's the case it's surprising they are so wrong," he told the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter, according to The Guardian. "Or more people have been infected than developed antibodies."
Britton had previously suggested that about half of the country could become infected by the end of April.
Sweden this week overtook the United Kingdom, Italy, and others to become the country with the highest number of coronavirus deaths per capita.
https://www.businessinsider.co...herd-immunity-2020-5
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| But...but...it's all a HOAX! The ENTIRE WORLD is collaborating to bring down Donald J. Trump! I swear, this pandemic has done more than 64 years of life to convince me of the utter stupidity of the human race.
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| quote: Originally posted by Mikhailoh:
I swear, this pandemic has done more than 64 years of life to convince me of the utter stupidity of the human race.
OMG, me too. (Except, 61 years). I just can’t even watch anymore. We don’t deserve this planet. 
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| Not only has Sweden now surpassed the other badly hit W. European countries in COVID deaths (all but Germany, really) but it has horrifically outpaced the other Scandinavian countries. The only "good" thing is that their strategy wasn't covert but taken with knowledge and approval of the populace and they seem to be Ok with the outcome now. So, one says anyhow. I'm most disturbed by the implications of the testing in Stockholm showing barely 7% of the population are showing antibodies indicating exposure/otherwise acquired immunity. So many of us were hoping that their (frightening) "herd immunity" experiment would at least be worth the risk and pay off. 
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| It was an unusual (and I might add shocking) approach.
I like the nuance you give of it having had (at least) the tacit approval of the populace.
Yet it seems to have been a total failure. |
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| quote: Sweden's controversial decision not to impose a strict lockdown in response to the Covid-19 pandemic led to too many deaths, the man behind the policy, Anders Tegnell, has acknowledged.
Sweden has seen a far higher mortality rate than its nearest neighbours and its nationals are being barred from crossing their borders.
Dr Tegnell told Swedish radio more should have been done early on.
"There is quite obviously a potential for improvement in what we have done."
How Tegnell's views have changed
Dr Tegnell, who is Sweden's state epidemiologist and in charge of the country's response to Covid-19, told BBC News in April that the high death toll was mainly because homes for the elderly had been unable to keep the disease out, although he emphasised that "does not disqualify our strategy as a whole".
Now he has told Swedish public radio: "If we were to encounter the same disease again, knowing exactly what we know about it today, I think we would settle on doing something in between what Sweden did and what the rest of the world has done."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52903717
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