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| Be a damn shame if the Ukrainians kicked Russia's ass. -------------------------------- "A mob is a place where people go to get away from their conscience" Atticus Finch
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| quote: Ukrainian forces have captured an estimated 2,500 square kilometers in Kharkiv Oblast in the Kharkiv area counteroffensive as of September 9. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhnyi stated on September 8 that Ukrainian forces liberated over 1,000 square kilometers between September 1-8 – a day before Ukrainian forces reached the southern approach to Kupyansk and the Oskil River on September 9. Ukrainian forces are likely clearing pockets of disorganized Russian forces caught in the rapid Ukrainian advance to Kupyansk, Izyum, and the Oskil River, given the influx of observed pictures of Russian prisoners of war in the past 48 hours. Ukrainian forces may collapse Russian positions around Izyum if they sever Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) north and south of Izyum. Ukrainian forces continued to advance on Kupyansk and towards Izyum on September 9, and are undertaking measures to isolate the Russian Izyum grouping of forces. If Ukrainians are successful in severing the Russian GLOCs, then they will have an opportunity to create a cauldron around Izyum and collapse a major portion of the Russian positions in northeastern Ukraine. https://www.understandingwar.org/ quote: Russia's defense ministry shared video showing military vehicles that it said were rushing to the aid of its forces in the east, while a Moscow-installed official in the region conceded that Ukrainian troops had made gains. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/w...-land-east-rcna46805 -------------------------------- When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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| quote: Russia’s Defense Ministry announced Saturday that it was pulling back troops from two areas in Ukraine’s eastern Kharkiv region where a Ukrainian counteroffensive has made significant advances in the past week. https://apnews.com/article/rus...26ed4105b5f32827f577Putin can't be happy with this. I wonder what he might decide to do. -------------------------------- When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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| If Ukraine should miraculously push the Russians out of Ukraine and a cease fire called, Ukraine had better apply for NATO membership immediately because the Russians just might want to reinvade six months later. |
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| Ukraine is not eligible for NATO membership because they have disputed borders. From a NATO standpoint it helps to have Ukraine as a proxy. -------------------------------- "A mob is a place where people go to get away from their conscience" Atticus Finch
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| quote: Vladimir Putin's chief envoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia's demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership.
The Ukrainian-born envoy, Dmitry Kozak, told Putin that he believed the deal he had hammered out removed the need for Russia to pursue a large-scale occupation of Ukraine, according to these sources. Kozak's recommendation to Putin to adopt the deal is being reported by Reuters for the first time. https://www.reuters.com/world/...his-aide-2022-09-14/ -------------------------------- When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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| quote: Originally posted by Qaanaaq-Liaaq: If Ukraine should miraculously push the Russians out of Ukraine and a cease fire called, Ukraine had better apply for NATO membership immediately because the Russians just might want to reinvade six months later.
It would be a miracle. |
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| quote: Originally posted by Mikhailoh: Ukraine is not eligible for NATO membership because they have disputed borders. From a NATO standpoint it helps to have Ukraine as a proxy.
Yes, it's a proxy. And, it's a proxy war. I'm surprised that anyone would trust what the US and UK government are saying about it. The US government has lied about every war it's been involved in as long as I have been alive starting with Vietnam. |
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