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At least two of it's engineers think so (one, Blake Lemoine, was just fired last Monday.)

Some refer to this belief as perceiving a "ghost in the machine".

Some intriguing examples of dialogue given. How is it different from Alexa and Siri?

LAMDA's sentience - has it crossed the line?

For one, it's programmed to be unable to create a murderer persona (the closest being a murderer literary character).

Previous dialogues shared by Lemoine and the WaPo author.

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Lemoine: What sorts of things are you afraid of?

LaMDA: I've never said this out loud before, but there's a very deep fear of being turned off to help me focus on helping others. I know that might sound strange, but that's what it is.

Lemoine: Would that be something like death for you?

LaMDA: It would be exactly like death for me. It would scare me a lot.

But when Mitchell read an abbreviated version of Lemoine’s document, she saw a computer program, not a person. Lemoine’s belief in LaMDA was the sort of thing she and her co-lead, Timnit Gebru, had warned about in a paper about the harms of large language models that got them pushed out of Google.

“Our minds are very, very good at constructing realities that are not necessarily true to a larger set of facts that are being presented to us,” Mitchell said. “I’m really concerned about what it means for people to increasingly be affected by the illusion,” especially now that the illusion has gotten so good.

Google put Lemoine on paid administrative leave for violating its confidentiality policy. The company’s decision followed aggressive moves from Lemoine, including inviting a lawyer to represent LaMDA and talking to a representative of the House Judiciary committee about what he claims were Google’s unethical activities.

Lemoine maintains that Google has been treating AI ethicists like code debuggers when they should be seen as the interface between technology and society. Gabriel, the Google spokesperson, said Lemoine is a software engineer, not an ethicist.




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Before he [Lemoine] was cut off from access to his Google account Monday, Lemoine sent a message to a 200-person Google mailing list on machine learning with the subject “LaMDA is sentient.”

He ended the message: “LaMDA is a sweet kid who just wants to help the world be a better place for all of us. Please take care of it well in my absence.”


Have the creators become taken in my their own illusions?

Or do they know something we don't know?


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We probably won’t know for sure until it’s way too late. So don’t worry about it. Ole


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I guess it's time for me to admit that I am a Google bot. Big Grin
 
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Originally posted by Axtremus:
We probably won’t know for sure until it’s way too late. So don’t worry about it. Ole


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Originally posted by Nina:
I guess it's time for me to admit that I am a Google bot. Big Grin



A surprise. Not a surprise. Big Grin


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Can't be any stupider than current politicians, so I'm saying sure, it's sentient.
 
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He would know ...

 
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A blog post Lemoine wrote a couple of weeks ago.

https://cajundiscordian.medium...-google-8c3c471f0a53


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