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Payroll tax deferral

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29 August 2020, 08:47 PM
wtg
Payroll tax deferral
Sounds bizarre.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/2...-hook-for-taxes.html


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30 August 2020, 11:14 AM
Steve Miller
Good grief.


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30 August 2020, 05:56 PM
Nina
Payroll is what funds medicare and social security.

I wonder if Trump and his minions even understand how payroll taxes work, and whether people understand what "deferred" means. You'll be on the hook for that deferred cash at the end of April, 2021. By "you," I mean both the employer AND the employee.

I think it's just a means to add a few bucks to people's paychecks before the election. He'll just gloss over the fact that, in reality, it's a loan. More scary is the idea I hear floating about that, should he be re-elected, he will make the payroll tax cuts permanent. Bye-bye social security and medicare.
30 August 2020, 06:46 PM
Amanda
I notice he didn't include that in his " campaign promises" in his long convention talk. Remembering he DID say (as did several ardent supporters), he ALWAYS keeps his promises!

OTOH the deep-voiced announcer bragged (?) during a RNC infomational videos that among Trump's achievements first-term was his "strengthening Social Security and Medicare."

All that contradictory hype just to influence voters! Ones who clearly aren't paying attention to the personal risks they're running from this man! A great many of them depend on these payouts. Where ARE their brains?

And don't a candidate's ads count as "campaign promises"? What he swears he ALWAYS keeps! Why else do they always end with their personal endorsement?

I sure wish a press conference would confront him with this discrepancy. (Or doesn't he hold press conferences any more?)


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31 August 2020, 07:07 PM
Steve Miller
I got a note today from Intuit/Quickbooks. They process my payroll.

It says they have no idea what the executive order means and when they figure that out they will get back to me. WTF


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05 September 2020, 05:33 PM
wtg
quote:
As employees of small businesses get their first September paychecks, they’re probably receiving their usual amount — company owners are still withholding money for Social Security despite a presidential order allowing the tax to be deferred.

The order President Donald Trump signed Aug. 8 allows employers to stop withholding the 6.2% payroll tax from Sept. 1 through Dec. 31. Employees must make under $4,000 every two weeks to qualify. Trump said the order was aimed at putting more money into Americans’ pockets during the coronavirus outbreak.

Small business owners are wary about the plan. The tax must still be paid between Jan. 1 and April 30 of next year, which means employees could take an unwanted financial hit or companies might ultimately have to pay the government if staffers leave.

Attorney John Strohmeyer is having the payroll for his Houston firm processed as per usual.

“It doesn’t make much sense. I’m not getting a tax break as an employee or employer. The money is still due by April 30 of next year,” Strohmeyer says.

Jay Starkman says the businesses calling his human resources consulting firm for advice about tax deferral ask whether it’s a good benefit for employees. But they’re not inclined to implement the plan.

“If the employee doesn’t pay the money back, you’re on the hook for it. Till that changes, it just doesn’t make sense to give somebody a few more months of money,” says Starkman, CEO of Engage PEO, based in Hollywood, Florida.

Owners also have questions about the payment process that aren’t answered in the guidelines the IRS issued last week.


https://apnews.com/1c12bd77a806850c3646c0e60500ebe7


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05 September 2020, 05:41 PM
Steve Miller
My crew want me to keep deducting. Works for me.


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05 September 2020, 09:13 PM
pianojuggler
My benevolent employer has opted not to partake in this act of stoopiditee.


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06 September 2020, 11:49 PM
Cindysphinx
As a federal employee, I do not get payroll tax deferral because I make more than the cut-off.

I was just going to roll it into my quarterly estimated taxes, which we have to pay because Mr. Sphinx is self-employed.