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The movie is superb.
Went to a matinee to avoid the crowds. The theater was not completely full.


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I'm glad you liked it

I'd like to see it.
 
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Some more background on the history. Good piece, lots of stuff I was unaware of.

https://weapons.substack.com/p...ack&utm_medium=email


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I suggest the following proposition: Oppenheimer never agonized over the use of the atomic bomb on Japan. He made a show of agonizing after his clearances were suspended, but he did so mostly after all the critical decisions on the use of the bomb were made. He strongly supported the decision to use the atomic bomb on Japan.


Interesting. I thought Oppie's clearances were suspended post-WWII *because* of his opposition to the hydrogen bomb and other nuclear weapons. edit: The author of the post says as much later in the piece.

For some additional info, there was a piece in the BBC about Oppenheimer that I posted in this thread.

I just started American Prometheus, which Big Al recommended. A good read so far.


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Originally posted by Mikhailoh:
Some more background on the history. Good piece, lots of stuff I was unaware of.

https://weapons.substack.com/p...ack&utm_medium=email


Thank you. That is a very worthwhile read.


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I haven’t seen the movie yet.

As I remember, a long time ago, some college student once wrote a research paper or book or dissertation or something on how to construct an atomic bomb. It was confiscated by the FBI.

If you liked the movie, see the documentary movie “Trinity & Beyond: The Atomic Bomb Movie“. I’ve never seen so many nuclear explosions in one movie before. If I remember correctly, there’s a sequence in the movie showing how atomic bombs are made. But the movie glosses over it quickly and superficially. They don’t want you to know too much about them.

I also saw the opera “Doctor Atomic” by composer John Adams. Oppenheimer is one of the principal characters. I think the opera is good but not great.
 
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Behind the scenes of the movie:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00715-3


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Radioactive Toy - Porcupine Tree - 1991

Run through forests on a hot Summer day
Trying to break down walls of numbing pain

Give me the freedom to destroy
Give me radioactive toy

Taste the water from a stream of running death
Eat the apple and cough a dying breath

Give me the freedom to destroy
Give me radioactive toy

Feel the sun burning through your black skin
Pour me into a hole, inform my next of kin

Give me the freedom to destroy
Give me radioactive toy

Run through graveyards on a dusty Winter day
Spit the dirt out and try to say

Give me the freedom to destroy
Give me radioactive toy
 
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We're probably watching tonight. But I prefer Sting's ode... a bit more hopeful, but perhaps even more meaningful today than when it was released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHylQRVN2Qs

In Europe and America
There's a growing feeling of hysteria
Conditioned to respond to all the threats
In the rhetorical speeches of the Soviets
Mr. Khrushchev said, "We will bury you"
I don't subscribe to this point of view
It would be such an ignorant thing to do
If the Russians love their children too

How can I save my little boy
From Oppenheimer's deadly toy?
There is no monopoly of common sense
On either side of the political fence

We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too


There is no historical precedent
To put the words in the mouth of the president
There's no such thing as a winnable war
It's a lie we don't believe anymore
Mr. Reagan says, "We will protect you"
I don't subscribe to this point of view
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too

We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
What might save us, me and you
Is if the Russians love their children too


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Love this song too!

PT's Radioactive Toy is a little more "Floydian"

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Originally posted by Mikhailoh:
We're probably watching tonight. But I prefer Sting's ode... a bit more hopeful, but perhaps even more meaningful today than when it was released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHylQRVN2Qs

In Europe and America
There's a growing feeling of hysteria
Conditioned to respond to all the threats
In the rhetorical speeches of the Soviets
Mr. Khrushchev said, "We will bury you"
I don't subscribe to this point of view
It would be such an ignorant thing to do
If the Russians love their children too

How can I save my little boy
From Oppenheimer's deadly toy?
There is no monopoly of common sense
On either side of the political fence

We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too


There is no historical precedent
To put the words in the mouth of the president
There's no such thing as a winnable war
It's a lie we don't believe anymore
Mr. Reagan says, "We will protect you"
I don't subscribe to this point of view
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too

We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
What might save us, me and you
Is if the Russians love their children too
 
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I've always loved the Sting song, too.

To research The Physicists' Daughter, I did research that included crawling around the internet looking for information about a small device that was part of a bigger device used to separate fissionable uranium.

A time traveler from 1944 would be astounded to know what's publicly available on the web these days. I'm talking about blueprint-level material pertinent to the Manhattan Project.

Granted, those methods have gone the way of the horse and buggy, and I believe there are calutrons for sale for anybody who'll haul them off, but it was still disconcerting to pull their design documents up on my little computer screen.


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I had forgotten the Sting song. Wow.


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We watched the movie last night. Truly deserving of best picture in any area you might look at.


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Originally posted by Mikhailoh:
We watched the movie last night. Truly deserving of best picture in any area you might look at.


Agreed. Hollywood is capable of taking on a serious topic and treating it with care and respect.
 
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Just finished watching it. A really well done film.

Was surprised, but pleased, that the only commercials were at the beginning and the film was shown uninterrupted, even though I signed up for the ad-supported tier of Peacock.


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