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Originally posted by Daniel:
I've already made over fifty posts with citations when necessary.

Anyone with an internet connection can find the facts concerning what is happening in Gaza.

Yes they can, but there appears to be a basic disagreement as to what constitutes a "fact".

From my point of view, a disturbing video that you saw (but didn't even link) from a doctor who volunteered in Gaza, offering that doctor's opinion that children are being targeted by snipers, isn't a fact. It's at best the doctor's opinion, and that's assuming the doctor being truthful. Since I have no idea who that doctor is or what their biases might be, I cannot agree that the doctor's opinion is a fact.

That's a cop out.

https://well-temperedforum.gro...0004433/m/9203968897

I'd like to see you try to refute anything in my thread.

Be my guest.

I just refuted a "fact[] concerning what is happening in Gaza", because it wasn't a fact. Challenge accepted and already completed.

I don't get my news from watching YouTube videos, so I don't watch your video links. I'd be happy to read something from a reputable source.

There's always the BBC ...

Well, you can (and have) dismissed links such as this one as, "YouTube videos."

From page 2--

https://youtu.be/Yhbx6iplYNY?si=XOlhte1jBQFgxv0z

That seems plain dumb to me, but it's your choice.

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Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
There's always the BBC ...

And CNN...

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Originally posted by Daniel:
Well, you can (and have) dismissed links such as this one as, "YouTube videos."

From page 2--

https://youtu.be/Yhbx6iplYNY?si=XOlhte1jBQFgxv0z

That seems plain dumb to me, but it's your choice.

Some might call that a personal attack.

In any event, I don’t choose to get my news from YouTube.

Life's too short, Quirt. You don't need to look at any evidence contradicting your point of view, and, like I said, that's your choice.

You've switched from discussing facts to discussing evidence. Where evidence is concerned, the question is whether it is probative or not.

Still, I prefer to get my evidence in written form. It's easier to review, to think about, and to evaluate that way.

Feel free to post transcripts.

And yes, I don't need to look at evidence contradicting my point of view. Nevertheless, I do look at such evidence. I don't necessarily put the same weight on certain pieces of evidence as others do, though.

I have always thought that Paul Simon's lyric that "a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" has a wide range of applicability.

Ok.

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Originally posted by CHAS:
I went to a New Orleans Mardi Gras the year the cops were on strike. It was very peaceful.
That prompted studies that found that the actions of the police were causing the riots.
Calling for the police is easy.

https://youtu.be/iHUbs-t71_A?si=_MUCK97aQaA4UMnJ

I only made through 16:00 of this interview of a Columbia professor but it proves your point, imo.