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czarina Has Achieved Nirvana ![]() |
his optics make no difference whatsoever. he will steal the election, so he don't need no steekin' optics.
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"“Get a mask whether you like the mask or not — they have an impact,” he read, with enthusiasm more commonly seen in hostage videos." | |||
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"I've got morons on my team." Mitt Romney Minor Deity ![]() |
This worrying seems hyperventilated and pretty weird. Because DJT dons (pun intended) a mask, all of a sudden millions of Americans will wake up from their lefty-media-induced torpor and realize just how commanding and brilliant our dear leader actually is? C'mon. And October surprises are more likely to hit him than dull Joe. The Mooch says Ghislaine "has the goods" on Trump | |||
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The Mooch is not exactly known to be credible. ![]()
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Does This Avatar Make My Butt Look Big? Minor Deity ![]() |
The people to worry about are the people in the middle who don't bathe in MSNBC and CNN all day. They might see Trump as tolerable, and that is enough to make them lukewarm about making a change. | |||
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Pinta & the Santa Maria Has Achieved Nirvana ![]() |
It boggles my mind that there are people who see Trump as "tolerable," but I know they're out there. I wonder what criteria they are using in their assessment? The only thing I can come up with is economic, because on almost any other measure he comes up far, far short. I think the polarizing issue with Trump is that people have different opinions on him based on strongly held values, and values are notoriously difficult to change. He also brings with him a real sense of tribalism (groupism, cultism, whatever you want to call it), which appeals to many people. There was an interesting article in the NYT (maybe Sunday?) about a woman who joined up with a group of white supremacists, and later quit. What she was attracted to was the opportunity to feel like she belonged, and was in a group where she was being heard (even if what she was hearing eventually caused her to get out). Interesting to me, she had left the white supremacy world and eventually became a Muslim and is very active in that community. Some might see that she simply traded one group for another, and it's our values that make the move seem like a "good" one. I guess this is a long way of saying that a lot of political identification is very deep-rooted and has little to do with platforms, policy statements or even rational logic. My 2c! ![]() | |||
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Judicial appointments. All they needed was a Republican president. Trump may have temporarily done a 180 but history seems to indicate its not sustainable because his resolve collapses at the first sign of resistance. If Fox News gets on board with masks, that will present more of a problem.
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(self-titled) semi-posting lurker Minor Deity ![]() |
This is a good point. Trump has zero resolve. Re Fox, are saying if Fox starts advocating masking up, it will tip the election in favor of Trump??
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I stole this because it sums up where I think we stand:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/09...rus-trump/index.html If he's perceived as starting to deal with the virus disaster, it might swing some votes his way. But.... Kind of boils down to whether people's attitudes towards masks could shift quickly enough to affect the current huge rise in cases. The fact that many of the areas hardest hit are in GOP states means that the people we need to change their votes are staring the COVID monster in the eye. Ultimately the virus will call the shots.
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(self-titled) semi-posting lurker Minor Deity ![]() |
I do not see this happening. The no-maskers are, shall we say, deeply entrenched.
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Pinta & the Santa Maria Has Achieved Nirvana ![]() |
He's also not come out strongly pro-mask. Has anyone seen a photo of him wearing a mask, besides that first one @ Walter Reed? | |||
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DeVos is helping the cause with her brand of science.
https://www.washingtonpost.com...e-stoppers-covid-19/
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"I've got morons on my team." Mitt Romney Minor Deity ![]() |
Cook Report ... ...shifts more states. Florida now leans Democratic rather than toss up. Other "likely GOP" states move to "lean." Biden now at 308 without any "toss ups." Heck, there are ONLY three toss-ups left. We don't need no stinkin' (and usually stupid) debates. Tell Trumpkins that if he wants a debate he must agree to release his tax returns on par with Biden's releases, and he must agree to simultaneous fact-checking. Watch him choke on his hamburger and decline. | |||
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I think that's an excellent idea, on both counts. On the main point, the new cases aren't going down, the number of new deaths continues to climb, and even countries that are taking precautions seriously are seeing unexpected outbreaks. Beyond that, even if the disease magically disappeared tomorrow, he's gotta deal with the fact that there have been 150,000 deaths already, when he had repeatedly predicted lower numbers. He'll be very lucky if it isn't 200,000 by Election Day. That needs to be a mantra. | |||
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Maybe but where is she now? She's not in a position to do anything to anyone. | |||
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