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14 August 2020, 05:09 PM
Piano*Dad
You want intolerant left ...
Black Marxist Speaker Banned

by socialists for his views on race.
14 August 2020, 06:24 PM
jon-nyc
Wow.


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14 August 2020, 06:31 PM
Daniel
Well, I can't read the whole article (paywall).

But:

"The cancellation of a speech reflects an intense debate on the left: Is racism the primary problem in America today, or the outgrowth of a system that oppresses all poor people?"

It seems to me the "system" mentioned could only be white supremacy. However, this would ignore the fact that Africans in the Americas have their own history.
14 August 2020, 07:12 PM
Piano*Dad
quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
Wow.


I put this up here for you, Jon. Big Grin
14 August 2020, 10:04 PM
Daniel
Get a room.

(J/k!)
14 August 2020, 10:39 PM
jon-nyc
Lol Daniel.


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14 August 2020, 10:42 PM
jon-nyc
Same DSA is insisting candidates sign a pledge not to visit Israel.

https://twitter.com/zackfinkne...054891464413187?s=21


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15 August 2020, 07:13 AM
Daniel
Oops. The Marxist probably meant capitalism. facepalm
15 August 2020, 07:24 AM
Amanda
quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
Same DSA is insisting candidates sign a pledge not to visit Israel.

https://twitter.com/zackfinkne...054891464413187?s=21


Dammitohell.

This is JUST the kind of thing that most POs me. As if it hadn't been hard enough all these years to be a liberal and a Jew loyal to Israel (as a - yes - Zionist in the original meaning of the word)!

With all the sad and complex history that dragged Israel rightward for existential reasons! (And if you were subject to a potent and unfair international double standard, you might be surprised just what strange bedfellows YOU found yourself with too!)

Like:
Evangelicals (who really want you only in an aeschatological sense), Trump's paraded-about Ken son-in-law and in-laws (how perfect! His little Barbie princess found herself a Prince Charming who's the scion of another born-and-bred cheatin RE tycoon! There must be a very special OK CUPID out there. Mad ), and now the only Arab state ready to shake your hand - virtually, I guess - is one of those feudal monarchies whoae oil is losing value.

None of the kids you wanted to play with will play ball, except (the govt at least) the country which most recently tried to annhilate you, and even starving countries insist on your removing the "made in Israel" stickers from your care packages as a precondition for accepting your humanitarian aid (several African nations).

Liberal US universities like Berkeley already made Israel denunciation clauses a requirement to run for student govt.(VeryAngry ) and most recently the BLM movement whose banner you'd love to wave won't admit you to the
Barf ir cadre of loyalists because - INTERSECTIONALITY.

And NOw OCA's NYC district is trying to make signing an I-hate-Israel petition a prerequisite for would-be office holders!

I mean, WHAT-TH-!?! Curse VeryAngry Mad

It's almost enough to push one into the Trump camp by default except that - well. P-U and then some. There's gotta be a limit even to the friends of my friends principle that led to the Stalin-Allies pact.
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15 August 2020, 07:47 AM
Daniel
I'm 1/2 Jewish by blood and my stepfather's family is Jewish. I'm half Semetic, if you will. There are a lot of Jews in upstate NY. I discovered in middle school that it was so contravercial to talk about Isreal that I personally stopped doing it. That was a long time ago.

Anyway, did you get a chance to answer my question in the other thread? Who are the Sephardic Jews?
15 August 2020, 07:55 AM
Amanda
Daniel,check out my response immediately after your query.

Clearly, you weren't brought up in an environment in which ones Jewish origins were no more possible to ignore than half Black ones.

(Otherwise, I'll bet you'd know Semitic was spelled with only a single "e"! Wink)


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The most dangerous word in the language is "obvious"

15 August 2020, 12:45 PM
jon-nyc
From the article:

quote:
He finds a certain humor in being attacked over race.

“I’ve never led with my biography, as that’s become an authenticity-claiming gesture,” he said. “But when my opponents say that I don’t accept that racism is real, I think to myself, ‘OK, we’ve arrived at a strange place.’”


He’s 73 and grew up in the Jim Crow south.


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15 August 2020, 03:42 PM
Horace
I wonder what about using one's biography as an authenticity claiming gesture seems repugnant to him.
19 August 2020, 09:06 AM
Daniel
quote:
Originally posted by Amanda:
Daniel,check out my response immediately after your query.

Clearly, you weren't brought up in an environment in which ones Jewish origins were no more possible to ignore than half Black ones.

(Otherwise, I'll bet you'd know Semitic was spelled with only a single "e"! Wink)


Excuse the typo. I'm looking for the other thread now.