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| I want a firing squad. -------------------------------- fear is the thief of dreams
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| quote: Pence made Jan. 6 a key focus of his June campaign launch in Iowa, suggesting that Trump’s actions that day disqualified him from being president again. While he doesn’t typically mention Jan. 6 in his stump speeches on the campaign trail, he reiterated Tuesday that the latest indictment “serves as an important reminder: Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States.”
“The former president is entitled to the presumption of innocence, but with this indictment, his candidacy means more talk about January 6th and more distractions,” Pence said in a statement. “On January 6th, former President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution. I chose the Constitution and I always will.” https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...00-times/ar-AA1eFEq1 -------------------------------- When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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| Trump's own attorney general talks about the indictments. quote: “Loyalty is a one-way street for [Trump],” Barr told CNN Wednesday night. “And in many ways, these two people down in Mar-a-Lago [Nauta and De Oliveira] represent many Republicans who feel that they have to man the ramparts and defend this guy no matter what he does and go along with him.”
“I think they have to be careful or they’re going end up as part of the carnage in his wake,” he continued. quote: While Barr said on Wednesday that it will be “very hard” to persuade Republicans that the latest indictment “isn’t political,” he also said he believes the case is “legitimate.”
“As a legal matter, I don’t see a problem with the indictment,” he said. “I think that it’s not an abuse. The Department of Justice is not acting to weaponize the department by proceeding against the president for a conspiracy to subvert the electoral process.” https://thehill.com/regulation...t-in-trumps-carnage/ -------------------------------- When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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| On Trump's possible First Amendment defense. https://www.axios.com/2023/08/...amendment-indictmentBarr opines on this, too: quote: He said the argument by Trump attorney John Lauro that the Jan. 6 indictment was an "attack on free speech and political advocacy, and there's nothing that's more protected under the First Amendment than political speech," was not valid. This was because the indictment states that the DOJ was not attacking Trump's First Amendment rights, Barr said.
"He can say whatever he wants. He can even lie. He can even tell people that the election was stolen, when he knew better," Barr said of Trump.
"But that does not protect you from entering into a conspiracy. All conspiracies involve speech, and all fraud involves speech. So, free speech doesn't give you the right to engage in a fraudulent conspiracy." https://www.axios.com/2023/08/...ee-speech-claim-barr -------------------------------- When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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| We don't criminally prosecute our political enemies in this country.
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| quote: We'd all be screaming bloody murder if this were a Democrat.
I'd like to think I wouldn't. Because I think Trump's actions did really break the law. But it's a interesting thought exercise for everyone on both sides of the aisle to consider a hypothetical like the one you propose. quote: We don't criminally prosecute our political enemies in this country. I'm sure I'll be called naive, but I'd like to believe that isn't what Jack Smith and the grand jury are doing here. -------------------------------- When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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| quote: We'd all be screaming bloody murder if this were a Democrat.
I don't think so, not if it were a dem who did exactly what Trump did.... |
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| Happy Arraignment Day to all who celebrate -------------------------------- If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.
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