I fear we’re being RBG’d by Biden

27 April 2023, 02:39 PM

Nina

The Reps just passed (squeaked by) a temporary raise on the debt ceiling, to allow Biden to "propose significant cost savings..."

The WH has responded with the equivalent of "pound sand." But we have temporarily dodged a bullet. The fight goes on.

27 April 2023, 08:44 PM

piqué

quote:
Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
My point exactly.

Do we want to risk a full and nasty primary that might nominate your heavenly candidate, or maybe someone completely unelectable, or stay safe with boring old Joe, who looks quite likely to beat Trump in round 2 barring some bad luck black swan event.

If the GOP retakes the WH, we can be assured that Alito and Thomas will be replaced (due to retirement or natural causes) by more Barretts and Kavanaughs. We can also be assured that the international system we worked three generations to create will come apart at the seams. Trump will quickly snatch defeat (a Russian/Chinese triumph) from the jaws of potential victory. NATO will quake and possibly splinter again. And China will be emboldened to make war against us over Taiwan.

I want the GOP crushed as much as the next Democrat, but it's more important simply to maintain a blocking force against the gerrymandered House and naturally gerrymandered Senate. I'm perfectly content with his old and experienced hand at the tiller, acting as a brake on the GOP's angertainment-frenzied mobs and their truly demented Congress-critters like Boebert and Greene.

Thank you. Points cogently made. If the Dems had a better plan they'd be deploying it. Biden is being selfless, not selfish. He's all that stands between us and an autocracy--and perhaps worse.

27 April 2023, 08:50 PM

piqué

quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
I'm content with his hand at the tiller too, really my fear is he has a manifestly disqualifying senior moment, or worse, dies before the election and it ends up going to Trump.

I get there's no obvious alternative.

It's not like Trump is some spring chicken. Friend of a friend just died of a massive heart attack at 62. Trump's health is terrible--his obesity alone is a huge risk factor.

This *is* ageism. Biden is capable. And even if I'm wrong about that and others are running the show, with all that is at stake, who cares?

27 April 2023, 10:49 PM

Daniel

quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
It really isn’t about ageism. Senescence is a fact of life totally independent of our attitudes towards it. Sure, 30 year olds can drop dead, but 85 year olds do it much more reliably.

It comes down to this - he’s taking a risk, like RBG did. And just like her, the costs if the risk turns out poorly will be borne entirely by others. It’s supremely selfish.

Truly.

BTW, I like the word-- "senescence."

28 April 2023, 11:16 PM

Cindysphinx

Apparently 2024 will come down to three states: Georgia, Wisconsin, and Arizona.

Dems need one to win. Republicans need all three.

Dems control the governorship and Secretary of State in 2 of the three.

We have a real shot.

28 April 2023, 11:50 PM

Steve Miller

The fact we have to worry about winning against a candidate as awful as TFG still boggles my mind.

Brave new world, indeed.

29 April 2023, 03:00 PM

wtg

Nobody’s excited about 2024.

https://www.theguardian.com/us...-polls-old-white-men

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29 April 2023, 05:42 PM

jon-nyc

quote:
Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
Apparently 2024 will come down to three states: Georgia, Wisconsin, and Arizona.

Dems need one to win. Republicans need all three.

Dems control the governorship and Secretary of State in 2 of the three.

We have a real shot.

From your lips to god’s ears….

29 April 2023, 06:13 PM

wtg

Yea, that's the most positive take I've read recently.

I'll take it.