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Half of the basement is finished with carpet. Do they lay down a vapor barrier or something before they lay the carpet?


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Posts: 32817 | Location: Yorba Linda, CA | Registered: 23 April 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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As a past homeowner that has experienced water in every basement....

Put things up on shelves, or in plastic tubs. No cardboard near the floor!

I've seen carpet and padding right over concrete - and have torn it all out after a flood.


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Posts: 7146 | Location: chicagoland | Registered: 21 April 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Despite record rainfalls in the area, the basement remains dry. That said, one of first tasks will be install a battery powered backup sump pump. There is also a generator planned.

The Lake House has daylight drains and doesn’t require a sump
pump. Even so, it may get a generator as well.


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Posts: 32817 | Location: Yorba Linda, CA | Registered: 23 April 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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As a past homeowner that has experienced water in every basement....

Put things up on shelves, or in plastic tubs. No cardboard near the floor!

I've seen carpet and padding right over concrete - and have torn it all out after a flood.


Yep. We are in the process of having basement carpet torn out. Floating vinyl FTW.


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We've had sewer backups, (ew) foundation leaks, gutter overspills that penetrated a previously dry basement, sump pump fails...

And the weirdest one was a sump pump hose that disconnected, causing the water from the sump to shoot straight up into the air!

A big help to one house where we didn't have a very deep basement was a new house built next door with a very deep basement. I would hear the sump pumps going all year long - it was that close to the water table!


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Posts: 7146 | Location: chicagoland | Registered: 21 April 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Add water heater springing a leak to the list of potential disasters.

On a good day, a basement tends to be higher humidity space and carpeting can smell funky over time. A vapor barrier or raised subfloor should be installed but I think a lot of people skip this step, which is a mistake. As is using carpeting with a natural material backing that mold likes to roost in. Stuff like jute.

Most people don't have a moisture meter, but you might. Otherwise, you can always tape down a 2'x2' piece of plastic on the concrete in the unfinished area. Check after 48 hours and see how much moisture is trapped underneath. That'll give you a clue as to whether you might have a problem brewing.

Friends who bought a house with a carpeted musty smelling basement ripped the carpet up and the musty smell disappeared. They did the plastic square test and there was no moisture. They decided to wash and seal the concrete despite the absence of dampness during the test, and installed Modutile interlocking tiles. Been about four years and it's worked wonderfully.

I know you already have the carpet, but if you have to take it out at some point, I'd be replacing it with something vinyl.


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A big help to one house where we didn't have a very deep basement was a new house built next door with a very deep basement. I would hear the sump pumps going all year long - it was that close to the water table!


We had new construction around the corner from us that was like that. A ranch on a slab was demolished and the new owners built a McMansion with an extra deep basement. The pumps were running all summer as the house was being built. First major storm after construction was done and they flooded. They ended up putting in a second sump to keep up with the water. Also backup systems in case of power outage. Those happen all the time around here with our overhead lines.


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Posts: 33945 | Location: Somewhere in the middle | Registered: 19 January 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I’ve joined a couple of local Facebook groups to kind of keep up with what’s going on. It looks like power failures are pretty common in that part of Ohio as well, even though Kim has never had a problem.


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Floating vinyl FTW


Yes! That's what we have, recommended to us by WTG. The kind we wanted to get was either discontinued or just long delayed so we got some from GreatMats, I should take a photo... Mr. SK loves it!


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I’ve joined a couple of local Facebook groups to kind of keep up with what’s going on. It looks like power failures are pretty common in that part of Ohio as well, even though Kim has never had a problem.


You might look up the local "Nextdoor" page. That is like hyperlocal FB. Reading it gives you an idea of the neighborhood issues and of who your neighbors are.


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Posts: 11087 | Location: Massachusetts | Registered: 22 April 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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OK, I give up. It looks like paint colors must be universal regardless of brand, but does every company have the identical "Navajo White"? Is it the same regardless of whether it's oil or acrylic or latex? Is it (and other named colors) the same no matter who makes it?

I always wondered at the plethora of color names for paint (kind of like lipstick), figuring they were baptized by a unique species of mortal who never ran out of adjective noun combos. (And for every company extant).

Contrary to what I'd have thought possible, though, it seems color names describe the same color regardless of who makes it.

About lipsticks, I won't even guess. I figure they're named by the same demi-gods who write the blurbs on the back of bottles of wine (ESPECIALLY Ménage à Trois . If you haven't read them, go ahead! Soft porn).

Or did someone on WTF explain the origin of "Navajo White" at some point? I am biffalo buffalo baffled!

And just far does this color naming spread go? Not to fine arts oil paint, at least, right? Mystery upon mystery. (Not to mention the oddness of naming an off-white paint color after an Indian tribe.)


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PS. Any colors (described simply without an alchemical name) that are best or worst to put next to Navajo White? What about a ceiling in the same room?

No cools, for example?


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Wiki on Navajo White:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_white

Yes, it's a warm color. Just go to Sherwin-Williams or Benjamin Moore's site and you can see the color. They also have tools that tell you what colors go with it, or offer alternatives that may be similar to it.

https://www.sherwin-williams.c.../SW6126-navajo-white

https://www.benjaminmoore.com/...jo-white?color=OC-95

We had it in our kitchen for years, but I found it to be a bit too yellow for that room and we had it repainted a while back. Can't remember if it was Benjamin Moore's Cayman Islands or White Coffee. That second one is a very old color that was one of their premixed colors back in the 70s/80s that they dropped from their line. It doesn't show up in their online system but you can still have mixed if you go to a paint store that sells Ben Moore paints. They can duplicate the color using the newer pigments and paints.


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Posts: 33945 | Location: Somewhere in the middle | Registered: 19 January 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I admit to being a Benjamin Moore snob.

I went with the "color of the year" for my first floor. Living, dining, kitchen and sunroom are all "Cloud White".

I know Navajo white as being the color that most apartments were painted before new tenants moved in. Shrug


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Posts: 11087 | Location: Massachusetts | Registered: 22 April 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I love Ben Moore. I grew up in a town where they had a factory. And the painter we've used for the last 25 years uses it pretty much exclusively.

Our ceilings on the second floor are Cloud White! Great color....


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