Advice on hooks/hanging hardware for outdoor plants?

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29 April 2021, 08:21 PM

Nina

Advice on hooks/hanging hardware for outdoor plants?

My daughter would like to hang a few flowering plants at the front of her house. There are two potential options to doing this:

1) Put a screw-in hook on the top (wooden) beam of the roof that covers her front entryway, something like this:

2) Put a screw-in hook on the front (wooden) pillar of the entryway, something like this.

My concern for both is whether they are strong enough to not pull out of the wood when they're holding a hanging pot of flowers (say 12 inch in diameter hanging pot with pansies or similar). We've had similar wall hooks pull off of the siding of our house simply due to the weight of the pot, dirt and water.

Any advice/ideas? I really don't want to have to patch and repaint the beams or pillar because the hooks have pulled out due to weight.

Thanks!

29 April 2021, 08:26 PM

Steve Miller

The overhead hook will work fine. If you’re looking for something more original search “Lantern hook” on EBay. Most of them were bronze and quite decorative.

I can’t open the second link, but I think you’ll want something with an arm on it. How you mount it will depend on how the pillar is made.

29 April 2021, 08:29 PM

Nina

Steve-- you're too fast! I'm still editing because I'm URL challenged apparently.

The post should work now. I think. Gaaaah.

29 April 2021, 09:08 PM

wtg

I've had these up for at least ten years. The post is pressure treated lumber. I've had big bird feeders full of seed and they are solid as a rock. The hangers were kinda different than a lot of the stuff I saw; they're forged metal. edit: I see the ones you posted are wrought iron and look kind of similar.

I got the large size (12") at Menards:

https://www.menards.com/main/p...226821208179&ipos=10

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29 April 2021, 09:27 PM

Steve Miller

The arms you post will work fine. Ditch the crummy plastic anchors and install them with toggle bolts, unless you can hit solid wood.

30 April 2021, 04:52 PM

big al

I'd forget plastic anchors and/or toggle bolts if there is an overhanging roof rafter or a post/stud in the wall that can have lag bolts, sturdy screws or a threaded hook installed. Masonry anchors are normally plenty study if secured into solid brick or masonry when wood framing members are not available for attachments.

Big Al

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30 April 2021, 05:47 PM

Nina

I'm not sure I'm tracking, because I don't see how a toggle bolt would work. What she's trying to put the hanger onto is a solid 4x4 piece of wood that's forming the pillar on her front entry. I've only used toggle bolts for things like hanging on drywall where I can't find a stud. The pillar seems like it's the mother of all studs.

How would a toggle bolt work?

Here's a photo of the area I'm talking about:

It would hang off of either the vertical pillar to the right, or the horizontal beam at the top.

30 April 2021, 06:20 PM

Steve Miller

If you are screwing in to wood just use regular screws. Predrill the hole a little smaller than the screw to make life much easier.

Pretty house, BTW.

30 April 2021, 07:17 PM

Nina

Thanks... it's not hers

. Hers is the one next door, with a different front but generally the same idea. I couldn't find a good pic of the front of her place online.

I'm also thinking that it might be wise to perhaps swap out the screws that come with the hooks for something a bit longer? Or is that overkill and I'm being paranoid? It just seems to me that a lot of the time the provided screws are wimpy.

30 April 2021, 08:08 PM

BeeLady

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Originally posted by Nina:

I'm also thinking that it might be wise to perhaps swap out the screws that come with the hooks for something a bit longer?

This is what I do. I have just bought new screws for my flag bracket for just this reason...Better safe than sorry.

But dang...the new screws are never the right color..so I am out there with permanent marker or paint to over the heads once they are in.

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30 April 2021, 09:09 PM

Steve Miller

I always swap out the screws because the ones that come with such things as brackets and curtain rods are invariably junk.

You won’t need much longer - plants just don’t weigh that much.

01 May 2021, 09:16 AM

rontuner

Deck screws!

Essentially galvanized self-tapping drywall screws. I've used them for years for anything outside. Just shoot em in with a cordless drill...

They come in all sorts of lengths.

01 May 2021, 10:39 AM

Nina

I've never heard of deck screws, but I just googled them and they seem like a good idea. The website I looked at recommended stainless for wet areas, which seems like the best way to go.

I'll try to post the final result once she has a final result. Thanks for all the tips, people!

01 May 2021, 11:25 AM

wtg

You can use the coated deck screws. Home Depot carries Deck Mate. They come in a bunch of colors.

https://www.homedepot.com/s/de...te%2520screws?NCNI-5

They come in boxes and the minimum is a pound of screws which is way more than she'll need. I have a bunch leftover from various projects. I can check and see what lengths I have; I could send a dozen or so to your daughter....

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