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The life-changing effects of hallucinations

Illusions brought on by drugs, lights and disease are giving us new insights into the inner workings of our brains. William Park ventured into his own induced hallucination to find out more.


https://www.bbc.com/future/art...arn-about-your-brain


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It's interesting that one of the 'trippers' quoted considers these things illusions. I always wondered if they were distortions or the ability to perceive other things visually.


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Suspect the trials will fade away again due to a lack of positive results.

Never tried LSD back when. Have wondered whether I missed anything.
These days I would be afraid to try it. I might find myself running for the House of Representatives for the Republican Party.


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Interesting read, thanks!

I tried psilocybin once (at least that’s what they said it was) ca. 1971. It was nice, mild, just enhanced natural colors in my surroundings.


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Suspect the trials will fade away again due to a lack of positive results.

Never tried LSD back when. Have wondered whether I missed anything.
These days I would be afraid to try it. I might find myself running for the House of Representatives for the Republican Party.


Bad trip, man.

Bad.


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I used to live near Millbrook where Timothy Leary did his LSD experiments after leaving Harvard. He lived in a friend's mansion.

I used to drive by the gatehouse on a regular basis when I was driving clients back and forth from Millbrook and Quaker Hill to the City and LaGuardia, JFK, and Newark.

He was long gone but Millbrook's residents were still incensed all those years later.

There was a student who graduated from New College and then went to Harvard to study psychodelics.

He used to sell the highest (no pun intended) quality LSD and ecstacy to New College students through a student who was his friend.

I don't know but somehow I doubt that the campus community is as tolerant now during the College's third iteration as it was during its second when I attended school there.

I don't have much to say about this topic. I would definitely advise against it without a truly safe place to be as well as a trustworthy and supportive community.

I would definitely advise against it for people over a certain age.
 
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I agree. I think you have to have a certain innocence to truly enjoy psychedelics of any real potency. That kind of precludes adults.


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Suspect the trials will fade away again due to a lack of positive results.

Never tried LSD back when. Have wondered whether I missed anything.
These days I would be afraid to try it. I might find myself running for the House of Representatives for the Republican Party.


Bad trip, man.

Bad.

ROTFLMAO


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I agree. I think you have to have a certain innocence to truly enjoy psychedelics of any real potency. That kind of precludes adults.


“innocence” is a nice way of putting it.


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I agree. I think you have to have a certain innocence to truly enjoy psychedelics of any real potency. That kind of precludes adults.


“innocence” is a nice way of putting it.


OK, you have to be a teenager living in Fantasy Farm to begin with. How's that?


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Suspect the trials will fade away again due to a lack of positive results.


Speaking f these trials, I was talking to an FDA guy last week about dose-controlled trials (instead of placebo). He brought up these psychedelics as an example because with a placebo “they’re really hard to blind”. lol


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That's a very good point.


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I believe the word is hallucinations not illusions. These words aren't interchangable.

This reminds me of Meghan Markle's Archetypes podcast.
She's not talking about achetypes. She's talking about stereotypes.

My other comment has to do with this passage--

"In the 1950s and 60s, there was a great deal of interest in psychedelics as a treatment for disorders from depression and alcohol addiction to schizophrenia. The US even ran experiments under the names Project MKUltra and Project MKDELTA to see if LSD could be used as a truth drug. While research into the therapeutic benefits of hallucinogens was largely paused after LSD was criminalised in the late 60s, there has recently been a renewal of interest in using hallucinogens such as ketamine and LSD as therapeutic treatments, etc."

This makes MKUltra should like some kind of therapeutic tool.

Of course it had a much more sinister purpose.

https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwes.../Project_MKULTRA.htm
 
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That's a very good point.


+1


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