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“This is why Trump still has a chance”

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17 August 2020, 10:31 PM
jon-nyc
“This is why Trump still has a chance”
How can we cede the streets to these people?

https://twitter.com/sullydish/...422230076235776?s=20


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17 August 2020, 10:32 PM
jon-nyc
This was last night. Later they pulled a woman from her car and beat her to within inches of her life.


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17 August 2020, 10:39 PM
ShiroKuro
Oh my god.

In the comments it said that he had died.

Is there any additional information?

Yes, it is why trump still has a chance... it is that and so many other things...


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17 August 2020, 10:43 PM
ShiroKuro
I shouldn’t have watched that. I think it needs a trigger warning.


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17 August 2020, 11:00 PM
jon-nyc
I think he’s alive and unconscious in the hospital. I think.


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17 August 2020, 11:05 PM
ShiroKuro
quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
I think he’s alive and unconscious in the hospital. I think.


Thee was one comment in the twitter thread that said he had died, the commenter is a trump supporter.

Googling around just brings up headlines that he is unconscious.

I hate what is happening in this country.


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18 August 2020, 09:05 AM
rontuner
This is happening in tRump's America - why would anyone think this would stop if tRump is allowed to continue?


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18 August 2020, 09:37 AM
ShiroKuro
Ron, I agree with you, that's my reaction too.

But I think Trump voters will use this as a way to say "see, we need more policing, and the Dems aren't going to provide that."


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18 August 2020, 10:12 AM
ShiroKuro
BTW, from WaPo:

quote:
A Portland police spokesman added on Monday that the victim suffered non-life-threatening injuries and was recovering in an area hospital.


https://www.washingtonpost.com...ash-protest-assault/


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18 August 2020, 10:15 AM
pianojuggler
It is possible that I-1's supporters are fomenting violence, or may do so in the future. Wouldn't be the first time a "false flag" attack happened in the current unrest -- there was "umbrella guy" and stories of others.

I-1 has fomented division, hate, and unrest that will continue and probable get much much worse if he "wins" re-election.


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18 August 2020, 10:16 AM
pianojuggler
quote:
Originally posted by ShiroKuro:
But I think Trump voters will use this as a way to say "see, we need more policing, and the Dems aren't going to provide that."
We need to cure the disease, not keep trying to beat down the symptoms.


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18 August 2020, 10:54 AM
ShiroKuro
quote:
We need to cure the disease

Oh I agree. I just don't know how many Trumpers do.

Re the video, I don't think the violence in the video was a "false flag" type of thing... Although I'm not watching it again to double check.


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18 August 2020, 11:30 AM
jon-nyc
We have multiple diseases coursing through our veins at the moment. This is one. Trump is another.


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18 August 2020, 11:41 AM
Piano*Dad
The people who beat him need to be arrested and charged with assault or attempted murder. Period. The last one who kicked him is easily identifiable in the video. That was attempted murder in my book.

Also, hard to shut out the n*****, n*****, n***** coming from some of the participants, just like uhhh, or f*** as a common space filler.
18 August 2020, 11:46 AM
pianojuggler
quote:
Originally posted by ShiroKuro:
quote:
We need to cure the disease

Oh I agree. I just don't know how many Trumpers do.

Re the video, I don't think the violence in the video was a "false flag" type of thing... Although I'm not watching it again to double check.
I'm not going to watch it. Thanks for the warning.

But the people committing a violent act don't need to be the bearers of a false flag. They can be people on the cusp of violence that are incited by (used by) someone who wants violence to happen. While we can argue what role the incitement plays (like we can argue whether entrapment is a legitimate criminal defense), external incitement has been well documented recently.

I am not making excuses for the violence. I am saying that we have seen cases where a party has incited violence so that someone can point to it and say "look, there's violence, we need to give our police CS gas, armored vehicles, and allow them to detain people without warrant while remaining anonymous."


In short, I'm just skeptical that everything is just organic violence at this point.


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