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Has Achieved Nirvana |
Not terribly long. Worth watching. https://www.politico.com/video...on-full-video-068191
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Minor Deity |
Like my friend said, Congress has to sh*t or get off the pot. Mueller clearly thinks the president committed a crime.
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
In my fantasy Trump isn’t just impeached, rather his whole presidency gets annulled. Yeah, we’d first have to change the constitution to create that as an option. But outside the realm of fantasy I'm against impeachment. In some sense, Trump is a symptom as well as a problem, and the real problem - 62MM Trump voters - doesn’t go away with impeachment. I’m with Mayor Pete on this - let’s focus on beating him the old fashioned way.
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
I feel the same conflict that jon does. As a practical matter, with a Republican Senate, I-1 will never be impeached. But then there's I-1's whole As I listened to Mueller, this part stunned me (along with the sentence that Bernard quoted):
transcript for those who don't want to watch the video: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0...ller-transcript.html
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Minor Deity |
Pete Buttigieg on Mueller's statement:
Kamala Harris:
Cory Booker:
Elizabeth Warren:
Beto O'Rourke:
Julian Castro:
And there are more. Congress has a constitutional duty to act. If they do nothing, it's a slap in the face to the rule of law, and sends the message that some people are, in fact, above the rule of law.
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Minor Deity |
And let's not forget Mueller himself:
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Never Offline |
I think most reasonable people agree that Obama could have beaten Trump easily in 2016. As fun as it is to bash Trump, it gets you nowhere at best, and is counter-productive at worst. Your best bet against him is to field a good candidate. | |||
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Pinta & the Santa Maria Has Achieved Nirvana |
In my fantasy, Trump never happened... but I digress. I think the time for impeachment has passed. I know there are people who disagree, and I respect those opinions. My decision is based solely on the idea that I think if we focus on the issues that resonate with most voters--health care, immigration, tax leveling, climate change, etc., as well as focussing on Trump-created disasters like the trade war and the looming debt ceiling crisis) Trump can be beaten. If we continue to take the bait on every inane tweet and remain in reactive mode, he will likely win. I honestly don't believe this country can survive another 4 years of Trump. | |||
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
+1000 to what Nina said. His M.O. is to keep people busy with crazy sh!t. Best thing to do is focus on the real problems and ignore His Flamboyance; it takes all the wind out of his sails.
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Pinta & the Santa Maria Has Achieved Nirvana |
I'd also like to point out that I don't know how to get the media to act like grownups during this next election and stop reporting on every Trump tweet like it's "news." It is not news. It's propaganda, lies, obfuscation and total carp. Any Dem candidate is going to struggle to get attention from the clickbait that passes as reporting nowadays. | |||
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Minor Deity |
It couldn't have happened until Mueller's report was out.
It's not an inane tweet. It's obstruction of justice, to which Mueller has strongly implicated Trump. Congress is obligated to defend and protect the Constitution, and it has nothing to do with polling or political calculation or risk factors or reading the Senate. If they do nothing they'll be guilty of dereliction of duty.
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Foregoing Practicing to Post Minor Deity |
This professor, Allan Lichtman, who has correctly predicted every presidential winner since 1984, said on Morning Joe this morning that, according to his analysis, impeachment inquiries must begin, or Trump will win. He says, in the long run, Dems focusing on policy issues won't cut it.
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
My prediction? Trump will get another 4 years and there isn’t anything anyone can do about it. Let’s hope I’m wrong.
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Beatification Candidate |
Impeachment would have to be demanded by the tRumpublicans before it would do any good. Otherwise, they will rally around their leader and energize the electorate - even the ones that don't like him. Perhaps right after the election...
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
I don't think it's likely the Dems can take the Senate in 2020. A bit dated, but a look at the Senate picture from fivethirtyeight: https://fivethirtyeight.com/fe...blicans-are-favored/ edit: Also remember that two-thirds of the Senate would have to vote to convict. I don't see a path to a successful impeachment effort. We need to find a candidate who can beat I-1. I think it can happen. I-1 has many vulnerabilities; we just need to focus on the right ones.
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