21 November 2020, 02:34 PM
AmandaOleander? Ben Carson says it relieved him within hours
I'm sure his "compassionate use" approval for the monoclonal antibody treatment had more to do with his recovery from COVID, but all the same this as yet officially unapproved herbal treatment bears examination.
If I were afflicted, I admit I'd examine this alternate medical treatment especially since I doubt I'd qualify for the VIP treatment the Trump crew have been getting.
Hard to tell, of course, since the manufacturer is partly underwritten by a GOP staffer.
Oleander herbal supplement reportedy relieved Ben Carson21 November 2020, 02:38 PM
wtgI don't think I'd even consider it. Unless something has changed recently, it's still in the category of snake oil.
wtg - who almost *always* considers a non-conventional approach first. That oughta tell you something....
21 November 2020, 03:26 PM
CHASOleander is toxic in some way. Bob's back yard is ringed with it.
21 November 2020, 03:55 PM
piquéOleander is highly poisonous
21 November 2020, 03:58 PM
Piano*Dadquote:
Originally posted by piqué:
Oleander is highly poisonous
So are many things that if processed in the right way are medically very beneficial. Having said that, at present I would put this "remedy" in the snake oil category.
21 November 2020, 04:02 PM
pianojugglerSoon they're going to be in bloom up in Annandale.
21 November 2020, 04:11 PM
AmandaSomehow I suspect Carson may be engaged in a partnership for its off-label use treating COVID, along with Mike Lindell, who introduced it to him. Note, Lindell, also served as President Trump's Minnesota campaign chairman where he scored such a resounding success as we all know.
Ever since this former neuro-surgeon has been in Trump's cabinet (now chairing the Urban and Housing Dept.), I have lost whatever respect I once had for him. That was not nothing, having read his rags to riches tale of becoming a neurosurgeon (although later reading suggested he specialized in high-risk operations to enhance his reputation even though the patients often died).
So, I guess upon reflection, I'm contradicting my original enthusiasm. He has shown himself a full-fledged member of the Church of Self-Enrichment*, like his mentor.
*He formally follows the Church of 7th Day Adventist FWIW.
21 November 2020, 05:48 PM
NinaOleander is toxic as hell. Unbefreakinglievable that he would say it helped him.
Oleander derivatives do have some medicinal benefits, but do you think that's going to stop people from going out and chomping down a few leaves?
quote:
The Washington Post reports Carson, a former neurosurgeon, said he took the extract after it was recommended by Mike Lindell. Lindell, who also served as President Trump's Minnesota campaign chairman, has a financial stake in the company that makes the extract, the Post notes.
Gee, sounds like exactly the kind of guy I'd want to get medical advice from.
22 November 2020, 09:26 PM
Steve MillerThe first thing you teach kids in CA is that oleander is poisonous. Kills dogs, people, cats, you name it.
Even if he was talking about derivatives his statement is indefensible.
22 November 2020, 09:34 PM
Piano*DadBurn it while clearing brush and ... the smoke can do bad stuff.