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It’s a complete **** case and damages the anti-Maga cause.

Trump should be arrested, perp-walked, mug-shotted, tried, convicted, and caged.

In Georgia.


Yup. I think pursuing the hush money case is likely to backfire in multiple ways.


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It's definitely a 'be careful what you wish for' situation.


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Just the first of many cases working through delay tactics to reach this point...


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Not that anyone needs reminding, but I am no fan of I-1..

The problem for me with the NY case is that from what I've read, there isn't a very strong case to be made. I guess it's possible that of the 30+ indictments, there could be something other than what we've heard about so far that could be really big. I also didn't like that the DA campaigned on the issue. Just doesn't seem right.

Also, the whole thing reminds me too much of how Clinton got impeached. Ken Starr was looking into Whitewater and eventually ended up with perjury associated with lying about a blow job in the Oval Office. They got him on a technicality rather than something that was very important in the great scheme of things. Even John Boehner admitted decades later in his autobiography that, at the time, he convinced himself that the impeachment was warranted. With the benefit of hindsight, he thinks it was purely political.

I think Georgia is where a real crime took place. I wish that indictment had come down first.


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Not that anyone needs reminding, but I am no fan of I-1..

The problem for me with the NY case is that from what I've read, there isn't a very strong case to be made. I guess it's possible that of the 30+ indictments, there could be something other than what we've heard about so far that could be really big. I also didn't like that the DA campaigned on the issue. Just doesn't seem right.

Also, the whole thing reminds me too much of how Clinton got impeached. Ken Starr was looking into Whitewater and eventually ended up with perjury associated with lying about a blow job in the Oval Office. They got him on a technicality rather than something that was very important in the great scheme of things. Even John Boehner admitted decades later in his autobiography that, at the time, he convinced himself that the impeachment was warranted. With the benefit of hindsight, he thinks it was purely political.

I think Georgia is where a real crime took place. I wish that indictment had come down first.


Agreed.

Can they do all of these at the same time? Not wait to do them sequentially? This is going to run into the 2024 election.


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Would like Georgia to indict him on Wednesday. and another indictment the following Monday. Then the prosecutors could keep him busy while working on the other investigations.
Maybe he would pop.


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I’m hopeful that Bragg has something else up his sleeve. The reason I am hopeful … 30 counts. They can’t all be Stormy-related.

Beyond that, the books and records case, if there was a corporate deduction, should be easy to prove. It’s a misdemeanor, I think. It’s ramping it up to a felony that could be a problem. You have to tie it to another crime. Tying to election law has issues. But maybe if the tie is to RICO …
 
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Weekend events at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, were suspended on Friday as the former president was “huddling” with his attorneys after being blindsided by the grand jury indictment handed up against him after payments to the porn star Stormy Daniels.

Trump, the New York Post reported, is meeting with advisers who were said to be “shaken” by the news of dozens of criminal charges related to a $130,000 payment given to Daniels, whose legal name is Stephanie Gregory Clifford.

“It won’t be business as usual,” a source told the Post. “They expected this but there is shock now that it’s happened.

“It’s real now. And they are worried about a surprise.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us...ago-events-suspended


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I’m hopeful that Bragg has something else up his sleeve. The reason I am hopeful … 30 counts. They can’t all be Stormy-related.


I sure hope there’s something less of a stretch than tying the state charge to a federal crime that the DoJ found unworthy of charging.


Though I fear it’s other big legal stretches that will just feed into, and to an extent even validate, the “witch hunt” charges.


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Da judge.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/01...raignment/index.html


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it's election fraud. that is plenty serious.


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I can see how the Daniels hush money could be characterized as a campaign finance violation. A version of it was tried with John Edwards and didn't fly.

How is the Daniels hush money election fraud?


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Voters were intentionally defrauded of receiving information that could influence how they vote. That was the whole reason for the payoff--to deceive voters


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His head would explode.

edit: Better article on possible gag order:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...minal-case-rcna77930

Original:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/a...son/?sh=37fb641a12d9


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Remarkable.


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