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Your opinions, please. On the Bay.

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03 February 2023, 08:01 AM
Steve Miller
Your opinions, please. On the Bay.
Ina Garten and Christopher Kimball have each stated that adding bay leaves to a dish is pretty much a waste of time.

Your opinions, please.


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03 February 2023, 08:09 AM
Mikhailoh
Agreed


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03 February 2023, 08:13 AM
wtg
When I've left bay leaves out of stew or sauerbraten, it seems to me that something is missing. But I'm more than willing to admit that it could just be my imagination...


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03 February 2023, 08:39 AM
CHAS
I think it leaves quite a gulf.


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03 February 2023, 08:43 AM
Steve Miller
quote:
Originally posted by CHAS:
I think it leaves quite a gulf.


Oh he’s good.

He’s very good! ThumbsUp


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03 February 2023, 11:22 AM
jodi
Agree. I almost never do it.


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03 February 2023, 11:23 AM
jodi
Except that we have a jar, so I’m trying to use them up, lol. So if I’m actually following a recipe (which I rarely do) - I usually add it.


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03 February 2023, 11:57 AM
AdagioM
I usually add twice as many as called for, hoping it makes a difference. Does it?

Shrug

Actually Samin Nosrat loves bay leaves, but I’m pretty sure hers are much fresher than the ones I’m using!


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03 February 2023, 12:37 PM
Piano*Dad
Yes, when I want a hint of that flavor I tend to double or triple the recommended number. And I'm sure using fresh leaves would be quite different. Cooking with fresh sage, for instance.
03 February 2023, 01:13 PM
RealPlayer
Could depend on the type of bay leaf too. California bay laurel is different from standard bay leaves. And even the standard ones have different hybrids or subspecies, I think.

I bet a good spice shop could steer you to the best ones.


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03 February 2023, 01:22 PM
Mikhailoh
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Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
Yes, when I want a hint of that flavor I tend to double or triple the recommended number. And I'm sure using fresh leaves would be quite different. Cooking with fresh sage, for instance.


I do that with garlic too.


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03 February 2023, 01:36 PM
jon-nyc
I’ve recently stopped as it seems entirely performative.


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03 February 2023, 01:42 PM
RealPlayer
Bite into a dry leaf and see if you taste anything. If not, it won't do anything for your dish.


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03 February 2023, 04:02 PM
dolmansaxlil
We have a small bay laurel tree (inside) so we use fresh ones. Before that I typically bought fresh and stored them in the freezer. I can taste the difference when I skip using them. We also use dried ones when we smoke jerk chicken (since pimento wood is impossible to get now).


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03 February 2023, 08:13 PM
Nina
I can definitely taste (or miss) the bay leaf flavor. The key is to keep them fresh. This can be challenging because it's not something I use that often. My non-scientific test is that, if I can't smell the bay leaves when I open the jar, they're too old.

I've used fresh bay leaves on occasion and they are even better.

I know there are a jillion different types of bay leaves, but the ones I usually get are Spice Islands, which I think are California bay laurel.