The worst tragedy in classical music history

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17 October 2023, 09:20 PM

jon-nyc

The worst tragedy in classical music history

Schubert dying at 31.

Talk me out of it. You automatically lose if the word "Mozart" appears in your answer.

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17 October 2023, 09:48 PM

Piano*Dad

So much ... unfinished.

17 October 2023, 11:14 PM

piqué

you won't find me arguing with that. i have gone through phases of deep love for many different composers over my life. the older i get, the more profoundly i love schubert's work. i've been listening to his octet since i was a kid (my dad played the clarinet part along with a recording by the Vienna Octet every night as I was falling asleep), but yesterday, driving home through utah and idaho, and then through southwest montana, i fell in love with it all over again and again.

so many different schubert works are among my favorites. i have a schubert-heavy cd holder in my car.

18 October 2023, 04:34 AM

Maybe, but Schubert accomplished a lot.

Dinu Lipatti died at 33 years old, I find his playing spellbinding, even though he was still maturing as a pianist.

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18 October 2023, 09:00 AM

Jack Frost

Right up there with losing John Lennon!

J

18 October 2023, 10:20 AM

CHAS

I am relieved.
Thought this thread was going to be in regard to some of the pieces I have murdered.

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18 October 2023, 10:24 AM

RealPlayer

Of course someone might think of a composer who lived far too long and left us with too much lousy music. Equally tragic.

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18 October 2023, 12:19 PM

Daniel

Mozart had a child like persona, interestingly enough, and died young.

Not that it matters. It seems he missed no opportunity from the beginning of his life to the end.

Someone would choose him?

Well, probably not on this forum.

18 October 2023, 12:21 PM

Piano*Dad

quote:
Originally posted by RealPlayer:
Of course someone might think of a composer who lived far too long and left us with too much lousy music. Equally tragic.

Well, Salieri was one of Schubert's composition professors ...

18 October 2023, 06:27 PM

CHAS

quote:
Well, Salieri was one of Schubert's composition professors ...

Some professors teach us what to do, others...

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18 October 2023, 06:59 PM

RealPlayer

Actually I wasn’t thinking of Salieri or anyone in particular.

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18 October 2023, 09:31 PM

Piano*Dad

quote:
Originally posted by RealPlayer:
Actually I wasn’t thinking of Salieri or anyone in particular.

I didn't presume you were. This just seems like another case where the student far exceeds the intellectual horizons of the teacher. I haven't a clue what Schubert learned from Salieri, or if Salieri was a better teacher than composer. But Schubert's music pushed the classical envelope far more than the stodgy and conventional work produced by his teacher.

19 October 2023, 11:34 AM

Bernard

There are no reply buttons on posts.

Anyway, replying to Daniel, I love Mozart. So did Schubert. In fact he was infatuated with him.

“O Mozart! Immortal Mozart! What countless impressions of a brighter, better life hast thou stamped upon our souls!” Schubert wrote in his diary.

19 October 2023, 11:48 AM

wtg

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19 October 2023, 12:42 PM

RealPlayer

On my Apple devices I can see all the icons.

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