Guilty, Not Guilty, or Hung Jury

30 May 2024, 09:23 PM

piqué

so this is funny. i was in a riding lesson when my phone started pinging like crazy today, so i couldn't look (the phone was on a mounting block, recording my lesson).

it was my neighbor texting the neighborhood with a video of the Munchkins singing "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" with the tagline "Did you see the news?"

30 May 2024, 09:55 PM

RealPlayer

I was practicing while wearing musician’s earplugs when my wife came in to tell me to come watch the news.

We poured drinks and had a toast.

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“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person. It's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." -- Bill Murray

30 May 2024, 10:14 PM

wtg

quote:
Originally posted by Nina:
Guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty

Lost count

30 May 2024, 10:41 PM

Piano*Dad

quote:
Originally posted by Nina:
Guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty

Lost count

And now, the inevitable round of appeals begins.

30 May 2024, 10:49 PM

Cindysphinx

Should the Republicans nominate someone else?

The list of Republicans who could beat Biden is long.

But MAGA would never accept it.

31 May 2024, 12:18 AM

piqué

quote:
Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
Should the Republicans nominate someone else?

The list of Republicans who could beat Biden is long.

But MAGA would never accept it.

Too bad for them. Who would you put up on the R side against Biden? and then would the Dems have to nominate someone else, too?

31 May 2024, 01:45 PM

Nina

The Dems could do whatever they want--although I do think there was a moment in time where the DNC could have put forth a few different candidates and promoted/funded their campaigns.

My thought question: if there were a true open convention, who would the Dems nominate and would the sudden switcheroo away from Biden be a good thing or a bad thing? AND we know that the rank and file GOP either loathe Trump or at least recognize that he is untrustworthy and potentially unfit. Would this felony conviction give them enough of an out that they can start speaking out against him, much the same way as they've started to with MTG, Boebert and the rest of that group?

But this is all just hypothetical, because I agree the MAGA would never accept removing Trump as their nominee.

31 May 2024, 03:05 PM

Steve Miller

I think Joe Biden has done a terrific job so far and can’t understand why anyone would want to run a different Democratic candidate.

31 May 2024, 08:36 PM

piqué

He was my dead last choice in the 2020 Dem primary, but I have changed my mind. I think he's doing an excellent job. And I love how steadfast he has been about upholding democratic priniciples.

I think the only reason for dumping him is his age. But as far as I am concerned, if he can still do the job, denying him the nomination because of his age is discrimination, and isn't a valid reason.

I am not crazy about Kamala and I wish he had a different running mate. I think if he had someone else, those who are worried about his age would be more comfortable voting for him.

Here's hoping in 2028 we have a clean slate and a new generation.

01 June 2024, 04:02 AM

Daniel

The last I heard the Party will nominate Biden through a virtual roll call before the conversation even begins. If this report was correct and this plan not changed there's not one democratic about it. I loathe Biden's candidacy-- for so many reasons. And Kamala is just a bad joke.

01 June 2024, 07:56 AM

Mary Anna

quote:
Originally posted by piqué:
He was my dead last choice in the 2020 Dem primary, but I have changed my mind. I think he's doing an excellent job. And I love how steadfast he has been about upholding democratic priniciples.

I think the only reason for dumping him is his age. But as far as I am concerned, if he can still do the job, denying him the nomination because of his age is discrimination, and isn't a valid reason.

I am not crazy about Kamala and I wish he had a different running mate. I think if he had someone else, those who are worried about his age would be more comfortable voting for him.

Here's hoping in 2028 we have a clean slate and a new generation.

This is pretty close to how I feel about the situation. I personally don't think poorly of Harris and it seems to me that a lot of the bad perceptions of her come from negative portrayals on social media and from the press, but I don't know that for a fact. Nevertheless, if she is a drag on the ticket, that worries me.

01 June 2024, 02:35 PM

Mikhailoh

quote:
Originally posted by Nina:
The Dems could do whatever they want--although I do think there was a moment in time where the DNC could have put forth a few different candidates and promoted/funded their campaigns.

My thought question: if there were a true open convention, who would the Dems nominate and would the sudden switcheroo away from Biden be a good thing or a bad thing? AND we know that the rank and file GOP either loathe Trump or at least recognize that he is untrustworthy and potentially unfit. Would this felony conviction give them enough of an out that they can start speaking out against him, much the same way as they've started to with MTG, Boebert and the rest of that group?

But this is all just hypothetical, because I agree the MAGA would never accept removing Trump as their nominee.

Completely the opposite. This conviction has strengthened the Trump campaign. It's very much a be careful what you wish for event.

Sadly there are no heroes in this story. We all lose, no matter which way it went.