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I was thinking that as well! I had never heard of either.

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Originally posted by jon-nyc:

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Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
You know what would be great fun? If college admissions were completely blind.

You submit your essays, your scores, your transcript, class rank, your other soft qualities. College knows nothing about you otherwise.

I'll bet a lot of rich kids would get left out. They would all have these carefully crafted profiles, but they wouldn't have legacy or admission based on connections or donations. Poor babies.

I think we would wind up with some really interesting, deserving people getting admitted, and diversity would take care of itself.

CalTech

Any others?

I'm only asking because CalTech is pretty much in a class by itself in terms of merit-based admissions. I can't think of another example.

I don’t know of any. Keep in mind that, unlike most of you, I haven’t been involved in researching colleges in over 30 years.

Clearly it never crossed these parents' minds, to teach their kids something we used to call "values". Oh, I forgot, they DID teach them values. Bad ones.

And to think, I didn't even edit my kids application essays and now I read it's considered kosher! Only one thing (I know I've said this before). a slight intervention re older son's application.

He didn't get into Harvard early Admission (expected). I had meanwhile realized that due to peculiar college ap bureacracy of the day - worse now - and our ghastly finances, he could ONLY AFFORD TO GO TO HARVARD. (You know even back then, they paid all expenses for kids they really wanted).

Accordingly, I read son's Early Ap, and realized it was sloppy, so I explained the facts of our financial life and said he had to redo it - with a lot more effort. When he was doing that (and his other aps over Winter Break), I looked the new version but didn't write any of it or even edit it. I just saw it was up to his ability and made sure it got in the mail by the deadline.

So this is the way things go now! Not that the old legacy scam hasn't gone on for ages, but this is worse - at least, in this country. One thing we know, now, though, is that wherever these kids end up going to college, if they should want to go into government after they graduate, this little (tralala) peccadillo won't count against them. Not under the present administration, anyhow. If anything, the reverse.

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Keep in mind that, unlike most of you, I haven’t been involved in researching colleges in over 30 years.

You'll get there faster than you imagine.

In the least surprising news of the day:

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The University of Southern California, Yale University, the University of California Los Angeles and other colleges were sued by two Stanford University students seeking class status over the admissions-bribery scandal that broke Tuesday with charges against 50 parents, coaches, proctors and others.

Erica Olson and Kalea Woods say they were denied a fair opportunity to gain legitimate admission to elite colleges, and that their Stanford degrees were devalued, by criminal racketeering charges leveled by federal prosecutors.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news...scandal-class-action

The real question: are two Stanford students suggesting they were denied the better opportunity to attend USC???

Won’t this suffer the same fate as the girl that sued UT over Affirmative Action? Nobody can prove he was the person not admitted due to the scandal.

Wait! Then I was also denied a fair opportunity to gain legitimate admission to Stanford for the last eight years.

Cha-ching!

I saw a on a crawl at the gym this morning that one of the actresses was out on a $1MM bond. Are they requiring all of the parents to post such bonds or is she a special case?

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Originally posted by jon-nyc:
I saw a on a crawl at the gym this morning that one of the actresses was out on a $1MM bond. Are they requiring all of the parents to post such bonds or is she a special case?

I think it’s based on flight risk. If you’re talking about Felicity Huffman, it apparently was said in court that she has $20 million in real estate assets alone. And the prosecutor said, she’s already demonstrated that she’ll use money to break the law.

If she has 20m in property, she's not likely to abscond to Caracas for a better life.

I suspect it's just showtime for the prosecutors.

Maybe the judge just went through a disappointing college application season with his kid.

S/he only got into the University of San Diego instead of USC ...

Another example of why Affirmative Action (carefully researching the applicants' backgrounds) has been and still is, needed.

And FWIW students admitted through such "leg-up" strategies need not only the chance provided by admission, but LOTS of help afterwards to cope - how to feel comfortable socially, besides getting appropriate academic help. Likewise, how to maneuver the ropes involved in utilizing the opportunities that exist, without being all that clear to students and their parents who have no experience in how to find them and take advantage.

IMO this ought to apply to all "First Gens", of any race ("race" really should be quoted on account of the lack of science behind the term).

It's hard enough for such acceptees to fit after being thrown in with so many rich kids (including ones admitted without subterfuge), at the same time lots of the FGs (first gens) remain under pressure to contribute to family finances.

USC seems to have telegraphed that the kids won’t necessarily get punished. Officially it said it’s still investigating but then added ‘some of the kids may have been minors during the application process’, as if that’s salient.