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Oh no - Bernie’s campaign spokesperson is attacking Biden

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12 April 2020, 09:36 PM
jon-nyc
Oh no - Bernie’s campaign spokesperson is attacking Biden
So much for blue no matter who.

If he can’t keep his staff on the reservation how much hope do we have for his supporters?




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12 April 2020, 09:41 PM
Daniel
Well, there is a school of thought that Bernie Sanders wanted to loose the nomination. I don't know enough about it to say.

I can say that Joe Biden is a very, very flawed candidate, IMHO.
12 April 2020, 09:44 PM
jon-nyc
Of course he is.

But he’s our candidate. She needs to pick a side, Biden or Trump.


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12 April 2020, 09:51 PM
QuirtEvans
Those are the choices. A flawed candidate (whether you add the adjectives or not), or a hellspawn.

Unless, of course, you are a believer in false equivalence.
12 April 2020, 09:54 PM
ShiroKuro
quote:
She needs to pick a side, Biden or Trump.


This. I do not like Biden. At all.

I will vote for him in November.

And I also have decided, for example, not to talk very much about my dislike of Biden. Present company excluded.


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12 April 2020, 10:15 PM
Daniel
quote:
Originally posted by QuirtEvans:
Those are the choices. A flawed candidate (whether you add the adjectives adverbs or not), or a hellspawn.


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12 April 2020, 10:27 PM
Piano*Dad
quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
Of course he is.

But he’s our candidate. She needs to pick a side, Biden or Trump.


Appears she has ... onward the Revolution.
13 April 2020, 11:25 AM
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13 April 2020, 12:25 PM
Nina
And this is why I'm not a Sanders fan. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. He's suspended his campaign, but will let this and similar commentary, from his own staff, go on without comment.

I listened to him on NPR last Friday night. The question was, "will you commit to working as hard if not harder for Biden as you did for Hillary"? He refused to answer the question, instead got all defensive about how hard he worked for Hillary. "OK, so given that you worked so hard for Hillary, will you work that hard for Biden's campaign"? Crickets.

The fact that he lets this stuff go on without strong condemnation is tacit endorsement.

He's also keeping his name on all the ballots (except presumably the presidential election itself) so he can continue to "shape the debate," e.g., throw rocks at Biden's more centrist views, which encourages his more rabid followers to continue this.
13 April 2020, 12:33 PM
Piano*Dad
Repeat after me ...

Bernie ... is ... not ... a ... Democrat.

Neither are many/most of his supporters. His supporters often are unaffiliated with any organized party, and often are disaffected non- or infrequent voters.
13 April 2020, 02:57 PM
wtg
Bernie endorsed Joe today. Wonder if he realized the damage his campaign spokesperson was doing.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/s.../1249770830373978112

And on a related note...

quote:
Ex-Republican on Trump coronavirus failures: Our lives depend on electing Joe Biden.
Curing the coronavirus is issue one through infinity and we must beat Trump to make it happen. I hope a Republicans for Biden group emerges quickly.


https://www.usatoday.com/story...n-column/2979287001/


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13 April 2020, 04:18 PM
pianojuggler
quote:
Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
Repeat after me ...

Bernie ... is ... not ... a ... Democrat.

Neither are many/most of his supporters. His supporters often are unaffiliated with any organized party, and often are disaffected non- or infrequent voters.
Ahem... "Bernie is not a Democrat". How'd I do?

He is not a (big D) Democrat. He is a Democratic Socialist. Which, by the way, is not a Socialist.

And his supporters? They are blinkered fanatics. I think most of them won't vote for Trump; they simply won't vote, which could hand Trump a couple of so-called swing states.


I will say again, I loved Bernie when he was on the radio on Thom Hartmann's program. His ideas were smart, sensible, and he explained them in clear terms. But his strategy as a candidate is abhorrent.


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14 April 2020, 01:12 PM
Amanda
WHY has there been no apparent reaction to this horrifying breaking of ranks in the war against Trump? It came from someone who would seem to be representing Biden's rival's POV. (And therefore guiding Sander's supporters away from Biden.)

Is it possible she really WAS speaking on her own initiative without its being vetted by Sanders?


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14 April 2020, 01:18 PM
pianojuggler
Ms. Gray may have taken it upon herself to tweet without checking in with Bernie. But... as his campaign manager, I assume he has bestowed upon her the right and privilege to speak on his behalf. And the tweet in the OP is clearly talking about what Bernie did or did not say... not Ms. Gray's personal opinion or perspective. So, it looks (ahem) obvious that this is official communication from the campaign.


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14 April 2020, 01:28 PM
Amanda
Ugh.

But again (with this possible explanation gone) WHY no public response?

(Or is it just a matter of the echo chamber I inhabit, and the RW media HAS played it up? Or at the very least the Russian bot programmers?)


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