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My poor daughter
01 March 2020, 12:36 PM
ShiroKuroMy poor daughter
quote:
I'm not worried.
This is interesting....
I'm not worried about dying from the corona virus. I'm young(enough), I'm pretty healthy, etc. etc.
But I really don't want to be sick for two weeks, whether it's the flu or coronavirus. I have things to do, and being laid up would really mess up my schedule. If I die, no problem (for me anyway). It's getting sick that worries me, since that would have impacts that will longer long after I'm better.
Also, I'm not keen on dealing with the kind of shortages we might see if there's a significant outbreak. So it makes sense to me to do everything I can to avoid getting sick, and also prepare (within reason) for possible impacts from an outbreak.
A little bit of "worrying" seems highly called for in this case, and if it translates into some smart preventative measures, all the better. At least from where I'm sitting...
01 March 2020, 01:06 PM
NinaJodi, just PM'd you.

01 March 2020, 01:08 PM
NinaThe Oregon case is VERY close to me. I'm not freaked out but am actually a bit worried about going to the store, since I figure everyone who thinks they may have been exposed is now there stocking up on stuff. Maybe I should go to a store far away....
I'd like to be prepared, but not nuts. I feel the same way about being ready for "the big one."
01 March 2020, 01:49 PM
wtgI'm where Nina is at.
Or, as Fareed Zakaria put it this morning: Run fast, not scared.
He had a good segment on coronavirus.
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01 March 2020, 01:58 PM
DanielLA Times reports:
"About 27 of the 108 residents at the facility and 25 of the 180 staffers have symptoms of the virus, Dr. Jeffrey Duchin, health officer for Public Health Seattle and King County, said Saturday in a telebriefing with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."
01 March 2020, 02:02 PM
jodiTalked to my daughter last night. Costco sold out of toilet paper and bottled water (Wtf, we aren’t going to lose our water supply!) and several other things, she said there were about 900 people waiting for it to open in the morning! What I am most worried about for her is if they do something like close the school, and then there are no dining services. So I’ve done the Worried mom thing

and am sending her out a care package of whole food protein bars and add water to it microwave meals - just so she has something in her dorm room to eat just in case. (She does not drive, so is pretty limited for how much she can carry). Now I’m off to read Nina’s pm.

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Jodi
01 March 2020, 02:07 PM
ShiroKuroquote:
About 27 of the 108 residents at the facility and 25 of the 180 staffers
What facility??
Jodi, my university is asking faculty to be prepared to move classes online (did I post this already?) and there's a big meeting w/ the provost and all deans and chairs tomorrow, so I expect to know more then (maybe).
I can't imagine that any university would close the school without making provisions for its students. Hope that's not naive! :P
01 March 2020, 02:14 PM
jodiI think the facility is The long term care facility that the person who died was in (in Kirkland Washington where the other two members of my immediate family are as I type this).
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Jodi
01 March 2020, 02:15 PM
jodiIt’s only a matter of time til it shows up in Butte. Heck, Mr. Jodi might end up being patient 0.

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Jodi
01 March 2020, 02:15 PM
jon-nycOne of the themes I’ve been following is the inadequacy of our testing capability and the ramifications of that. (Short story is CDC ****** up initial test kits, kept testing centralized too long, and had very narrow criteria for testing, actually declining to test a patient that later came out positive)
Anyway a virologist in WA sequenced the virus of a new patient there and noticed enough similarity compared to the first WA patient to suggests to him that they were not separate infections from China, rather part of continuous chain of infections, suggesting many more cases between the two. His estimate is in the ‘several hundred’ range in WA, he’s working on it now with state heath authorities. Read the whole Twitter thread.
https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1233970271318503426
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01 March 2020, 02:18 PM
jon-nycTaleb (bless his heart) makes the point that at first approximation the worldwide cases charts are just a snapshot of testing capacity.
We’re a week or so away from being able to test at the rate the South Koreans are testing. When that happens the case count will go vertical and I think the panic level will rise with it.
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01 March 2020, 02:20 PM
jodiYes, I was reading that they think it’s been in Washington for at least 6 weeks?
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Jodi
01 March 2020, 02:39 PM
ShiroKuroquote:
When that happens the case count will go vertical and I think the panic level will rise with it.
Indeed! I was reading about testing in S. Korea and this occurred to me. Most people don't read past the headline and are not likely to be able to say "the numbers are up because testing is up" -- they'll just stop at the first half of that sentence. Sigh.
01 March 2020, 02:48 PM
CindysphinxHey, at least it isn't something like polio that leaves you with a lifetime of paralysis.
It's just so weird. Like, I play a lot of tennis. After a match, you are supposed to go to the net and shake hands with your opponents. By rule, this signifies that all players agree that the match is over and you cannot contest the results.
Now, no one will shake, so matches will never end. The insanity!!
01 March 2020, 03:04 PM
jon-nycAre you already seeing that, Cindy?
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