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"I've got morons on my team."

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Play with the sound on

She has a damn good point. It's easy for Dems to get on their moral high horse and huff about health, shutting small businesses down. But absent billions in support for business people like her and her employees, millions of voters will be inclined toward opening up despite the public health consequences.

...and the whiff of special privilege/money makes it worse. Got money, and the Dems in charge can be bought.
 
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Hey Piano*Dad FIFY
But absent billions in support for business people like her, and her employees millions of voters are already inclined toward opening up despite the public health consequences.


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"I've got morons on my team."

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Yes, but this kind of behavior by Democrats in charge will

A) Supercharge the idea
B) Strip the Democrats of moral authority going forward.
 
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Garcetti issued a strict stay-at-home order, according to Fox 11 Los Angeles, mandating that all bars, hair salons, barbershops, casinos, and indoor and outdoor playgrounds to shut down.

The order allows other businesses, including film production and fitness centers that operate outdoors, to remain in operation, KABC reported.


https://www.newsweek.com/watch...-neighboring-1552607

This is just stupid.


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"I've got morons on my team."

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That's what will strip Dems of moral authority. It's OK for big-bucks movie teams to "pay off" Garcetti (not literally), but not OK for a struggling restaurant to serve food outdoors following CDC guidelines for masking and distancing.

I'm not at all shocked that dipsh!ts like Gingrich would be quick to share.
 
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Only Dems seem to think Dems have any moral authority.
People do not know what they stand for or what they want to do.


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Yeap, “fitness centers” and film-making are not “essential.” If unessential businesses need to be shutdown, shutdown the gyms and the movie business too.


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"I've got morons on my team."

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You don't have to ban movie-making. Just don't grant particular industries or firms, especially powerful and connected ones, exemptions to the public health rules everyone else is expected to abide by.

Movies and TV shows are being made in NBA-like bubbles. You group your cast together in a hotel and quarantine them for two weeks before shooting. You cater for them away from the public, and your cast and crew do not go anywhere or meet anyone not in the bubble. You film in studio settings that are sealed in the bubble or in outdoor settings that are not accessible to the public.

I've seen justifications of that movie catering debacle. They're supposedly doing it much more safely than any restaurant ...

A) Anyone who believes that kind of story coming from a spokesperson for the movie industry is rather credulous. I'm no expert on the industry, but I do have a mole in there (sister-in-law is an assistant director). Let's just put it this way ... there is every bit as much looseness with the truth than in any other firm or industry. And they don't show any more concern for employees than any other firm either.

B) They could douse everything with bleach ten time a minute and it still doesn't pass the smell test with the public. That angry restaurateur has them by the short hairs. Any mayor/governor who thinks otherwise is failing Politics 101.
 
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There is a model, and it worked.

The NBA managed to complete their season with everyone inside a bubble, without a major outbreak.

But they did punish people severely for going outside the bubble.
 
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Originally posted by CHAS:
Only Dems seem to think Dems have any moral authority.
People do not know what they stand for for what they want to do.


This is a hard post to read but an important one.
 
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In my fair town

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Ald. Tom Tunney (44th) acknowledged Monday he “made a mistake” by allowing some of his regular customers to dine inside his Ann Sather Restaurants in defiance of state and city orders banning indoor dining.

In late October, Gov. J.B. Pritzker ordered Illinois restaurants to close their dining rooms for a second time since the pandemic to stop a second surge of coronavirus cases that was worse than the first.

Mayor Lori Lightfoot initially voiced her concern about the devastating impact on Chicago restaurants, then came away from an hourlong meeting with the governor resigned to the rollback.

On Monday, “Second City Cop,” a blog devoted to police issues, disclosed that Tunney has been thumbing his nose at the governor’s order.

The item referred to Tunney’s restaurants as “Stan Rather’s” and included photographs of plates of food on indoor tables. On one table, there was a copy of the Dec. 3 Wall Street Journal along with a slice of bacon in the corner of the photo.

On Monday, Tunney openly acknowledged having defied the governor’s order.

“We have, on occasion, sat regular diners in the back of the restaurant. I acknowledge that. It’s not OK. I made a mistake, and I’m owning up to it. I should have not sat regular customers in my restaurant whatsoever,” said Tunney, Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s handpicked chairman of the City Council’s Zoning Committee.

“I have a lot of repeat customers over the years. On a sporadic basis, I have let regular customers — very few and far between — in my store. I made an error.”




https://chicago.suntimes.com/p...-restaurant-covid-19

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Ald. Tom Tunney’s (44th) Lake View Ann Sather Restaurant and a Wicker Park club that held a party with 142 mask-less patrons were among the latest businesses to be cited by the city for violating the city and state’s indoor service ban....

Tunney faces a maximum fine of $10,500 for the two citations, but the final amount won’t be determined until his administrative hearing in February.


https://chicago.suntimes.com/2...t-service-ban-indoor


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https://www.washingtonpost.com...6ba051781_story.html

WaPo’s profile and story on the woman in the viral video referenced in the opening post.


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New rules in my state concerning indoor tennis could take down some of the private facilities. Since September, the rules have allowed indoor tennis with masks. New rule is no more than ten people allowed in the building at facilities that have six courts.

Keep in mind that these tennis facilities are enormous with very high roofs, space between courts, and good ventillation. The facilities have taken precautions like keeping side doors open, removing benches, banning spectators, installing additional ventillation, closing down lobbies and supplies stores, and requiring people to exit through side doors. Nevertheless, the rules now say that only 10 people can be in a huge tennis facility with 6 courts, so no doubles.

Tennis is one of the safest activities, and people wear masks when they play. I do not believe indoor tennis is more dangerous than having people in a small store shopping. Which is still permitted.

Personally, I don't care because I had wrist surgery and cannot play for several more months anyway. But I do think whoever makes these rules ought to use some common sense about what is safe and what is not safe, and deciding that indoor tennis in big facilities, where there has been no transmission than anyone can identify makes no sense. We shouldn't be driving people out of business.
 
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I agree that there are inconsistencies, hypocrisies, whatever you want to call it, regarding shutdowns.

But this is the sort of thing that is the Dem's equivalent of "squirrel." We can get so distracted about things like this instance of the woman and her patio dining that next thing you know we're apologizing for the entire state's response to COVID.

Perspective is good. Yes, sometimes the optics are bad, and sometimes specific decisions are bad. But this is a distraction, and whataboutism to the max.
 
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Tennis is one of the safest activities, and people wear masks when they play. I do not believe indoor tennis is more dangerous than having people in a small store shopping. Which is still permitted.



Agree with this. Sometimes common sense seems lacking. Happens too much and we'll lose. People will begin to tune out NEEDED regulations.
 
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