Here's a thoughtful op ed from the LA Times about what we can know about the outcome of the upcoming election. I find the point about how the polls can't be accurate because they haven't taken into account the election restrictions that republican jurisdictions have enacted, the most frightening thing about the election. You?
Yes, and polls were often wildly wrong even before the electoral shenanigans.
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I'm just flummoxed by how people can seriously doubt election victories from the other party, but accept all of their own party wins during the same election... sigh
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Originally posted by rontuner: I'm just flummoxed by how people can seriously doubt election victories from the other party, but accept all of their own party wins during the same election... sigh
Yes, even on THE SAME BALLOT!
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Originally posted by rontuner: I'm just flummoxed by how people can seriously doubt election victories from the other party, but accept all of their own party wins during the same election... sigh
They don't doubt them; they lie about them.
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Well, yes. There were, of course, paper ballots the year the election for president was stolen in Florida (i.e. the State of Florida was stolen).
But, I recall the Supreme Court of the United States (in contravention of the Supreme Court of Florida) ordered a stop to vote counting, and decided the result of the election on a partisan basis.
I wonder how many people today have no memory of these events. Those of us who witnessed them will never forget what happened.
Two people armed with handguns and wearing tactical military gear, balaclavas masking their faces and the license plates on their cars covered, stood watch over a ballot drop box during early voting last week in Mesa, Arizona.
This scene, reported by the Maricopa County Elections Department on Friday, is one that some elections officials and law enforcement fear might spread as believers in Donald Trump’s false claims that a second term as president was stolen from him through voter fraud amp up activity ahead of the Nov. 8 election.
Other election deniers are filming voters dropping off ballots, photographing their license plates and confronting them in parking lots outside early voting locations in Arizona and Michigan, according to Marcia Johnson-Blanco, who is overseeing election protection efforts for the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law.
At least three groups that make baseless claims of widespread voter fraud are encouraging untrained volunteers to engage in the effort. One effort, funded by Michael Flynn, Donald Trump’s first national security adviser and a former Army general in Iraq 20 years ago, is specifically recruiting military veterans and police officers to monitor voting.
For now, the agitators’ efforts are sporadic, and elections officials stress that most voters are unlikely to be affected in the hopes of tamping down any public fears about voting in person.
