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Originally posted by well-tempered gardener:
Horace, every time I've gotten into a discussion with you, either here or next door, it seems we ultimately end up in the same place, with you stating that I hate/dislike our current president and seemingly dismissing everything else I have to say.
You said "dislike" and I used "hate" instead. I have no trouble acknowledging that I used the wrong word in this thread; it was sloppy of me. My error.
On the other hand, I don't see how it changes the substance of what I said. We're talking about the intensity of the emotion. I'm making the point that it's not emotional for me, and I keep getting told that I feel "X".
As for the op-ed, I don't think we should be looking at the politics of who it is good/bad for. There are much more important things to be concerned about.
Despite how strongly I feel that Trump is completely unqualified to execute the duties of his office and can understand that members of his administration agree with that notion and are trying to protect the country from his worst impulses, the thing that bothers me the most is the notion of the palace coup that is apparently underway. This isn't how it's supposed to work.
It's unequivocal that it's not how it's supposed to work. And it's unequivocal that the op ed spoke to the feelings of millions of never-Trumpers.
The precedent is interesting, is all I'm saying. I believe, and this is my personal opinion, that the stronger, better, more pro-human perspective on that letter is that the author and his alleged cabal should respect the system more, even in the face of how much they disrespect the person who was elected into it.
That opinion of mine could be changed, if I was given to understand things the president has tried to do, which this resistance kept him from doing. I feel confident that I will never be given any compelling specifics about that.
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But that brings us back around to who is in the Oval Office. His actions have dragged us (and based on the op-ed, "us" includes the people he himself selected to work with him and to be in his administration) into dangerous and uncharted waters. I'm not sure what the way out is.
The NYT op-ed is uncharted waters, I agree. To me, what is most interesting is how far afoul of people's stated principles they will go when the righteousness of groups takes over.
