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Sandy Hook redux

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24 May 2022, 05:20 PM
wtg
Sandy Hook redux
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A gunman opened fire at an elementary school in Uvalde on Tuesday, killing 14 students and one teacher, Gov. Greg Abbott said. The gunman, identified as 18-year-old Salvador Romas, was also killed, Abbott said. Romas was reportedly a student at Uvalde High School or was a former student, Abbott said.

Abbott said Romas shot his grandmother before he went on the shooting rampage at Robb Elementary School.


https://www.ksat.com/news/loca...chool-district-says/


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24 May 2022, 05:30 PM
Steve Miller
Frowner


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24 May 2022, 06:26 PM
ShiroKuro
When will this stop?
Frowner


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24 May 2022, 07:53 PM
Nina
The school is for 2 - 4 grade only. Little kids.
24 May 2022, 08:01 PM
wtg
The death toll is up to 21. Nineteen kids and two adults.

https://www.ksat.com/news/loca...chool-district-says/


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24 May 2022, 08:12 PM
ShiroKuro
quote:
The school is for 2 - 4 grade only. Little kids.


This is too heartbreaking. Frowner


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24 May 2022, 08:35 PM
Amanda
This is the main reason people overseas - First World especially - think America is a dangerous, nightmarish place to live.

So different from how we used to be perceived. I remember when I first went to Israel, I was often asked questions reflecting stereotypes (about gangsters, cowboys).

This is altogether different, though. I worry most about the effect on American children's mental health.

Children should, of course, not be subjected to mass shootings, but (as it affects the most) they should not be exposed to the knowledge that people, children most of all, are vulnerable to being shot at random - at school, least of all.

I remember growing up, my younger brother (then ~7) was once asked typically what he wanted to be when he grew up. He gave ordinary answers. What was shocking was at the end of his list, he added after a sober pause "...if I'm not shot first."

He didn't live in a war zone, the Wild West, nor a crime-filled ghetto. Most of all, he wasn't exposed in the news to crimes like today. All the same, this same danger and sense of provisionality was in the back of his mind!*

How must children's minds be being shaped today? I can't imagine parenting a child these days, from this POV. How can even the best, most stable parents deal with these news items and still give their children the necessary sense of security?


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24 May 2022, 08:44 PM
Amanda
*True, we WERE sensitized to the threat of nuclear war, and children today are also brought up aware of the all too real apocalyptic dangers of climate change. This business of mass killings in schools - ANYWHERE - is quite new. Also, there's a greater sense of immediacy and lack of ability to anticipate.


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25 May 2022, 11:31 AM
pianojuggler
This is not a mental health problem, it’s a gun problem. And if it were a mental health problem, which this country does have, that goes back to a republican, Reagan, who shut down the mental health care system.

Cruz et al are demanding an arms race and turning every school in the country into an armed fortress. Just my wacky leftist opinion: I don’t think that’s the answer.


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25 May 2022, 12:41 PM
Piano*Dad
quote:
Cruz et al are demanding an arms race and turning every school in the country into an armed fortress. Just my wacky leftist opinion: I don’t think that’s the answer.


Yes, let's arm the teachers!

And then in the next breath, and to please their MAGA base, they'll attack the teachers as a commie union, full of RCT indoctrinators and LGBTQ "groomers."
25 May 2022, 02:28 PM
RealPlayer
I wonder if a massive teacher’s strike would do any good.


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25 May 2022, 02:30 PM
pianojuggler
America’s Gun Culture in Seven Charts

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081


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25 May 2022, 02:45 PM
wtg
I was looking at gun death data, too. We don't look so good when you look at the whole world...

https://worldpopulationreview....un-deaths-by-country


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25 May 2022, 02:53 PM
pianojuggler
If only it weren’t true…

https://www.theonion.com/

https://www.theonion.com/no-wa...re-this-r-1848971668


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25 May 2022, 03:21 PM
CHAS
quote:
Originally posted by ShiroKuro:
When will this stop?
Frowner


When the $$$$ supply to support pro-gun action in congress ends. Or maybe when angry mobs drag legislators on to the... Oh, wait we just had something like that didn't we?


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