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Has Achieved Nirvana |
FWIW, the conclusion that Ridley and Chan came to:
edit: Ridley has a recent piece in the Daily Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...mic-MATT-RIDLEY.html
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Ridley and Chan now think it’s more likely than not that it came from WIV, but their real goal is to see some real institutional heft behind an investigation. They were just on Sam Harris’s podcast this week, so you can hear their argument boiled down to an hour. It’s a great interview.
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| Has Achieved Nirvana |
Thanks for the heads up on the podcast. I've found Ground News to be a useful tool in getting a full picture of a story....they have a timeline on the lab leak theory and how it was covered by left, center, and right media outlets. You can drill down to how various news outlets covered the story. https://ground.news/timeline/lab-leak-theory Coverage from PBS in May 2021: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/s...heory-about-covid-19
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| Has Achieved Nirvana |
Interesting point from Reason, talking about how odd it was to call the lab leak theory “racist”:
https://reason.com/2023/02/27/...-covid-origin-china/
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Minor Deity |
I think calling it "racist" (have we forgotten?) was inevitable if for no other reason than Trump's calling it the "Chinese virus". Apart from specific connections to a place, a lab and as jon called it "culture-specific" foods, there's that universal drive in case of calamity to find someone to blame. (And not only to have a target for rage, but possibly seeking reparations.) That's being so (and remember that there were anti-Chinese attacks rationalized by their alleged connection to the origins of the pandemic), it was just as predictable that in due course, the Chinese would blame the Americans! (As they did.) How ironic if it turns out that BOTH superpowers (cooperating - Ha!) were responsible for this plague. (If this were a few millennia ago, the Jews - professional scapegoats - would surely have been fingered - poisoned wells, etc.)
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| Has Achieved Nirvana |
We have a left/right political schism in the media, in government, and in the general population. Everyone wants to bash the other guy or to score points for their own side. We have corporations and businesses trying to survive in a world of sick employees, shutdowns, supply chain problems, etc. We have (most disturbingly to me) scientists who are circling the wagons to protect their fiefdoms. We have public health officials who are trying to fight a very bad virus that they don't know much about in an environment where it's a struggle to get solid data. And we have governments that aren't open about what is going on in their countries. Never have so many talked so much and so passionately about something without having good information and a wide-ranging perspective. (Not directed at WTF, but rather the world at large). Yea, we're totally messed up.
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Do you think it was odd? I guess I saw it a reaction to TFG's goofy "the Chinahhh virus" mantra. I also think it was various individuals doing what we all do, namely seeing this through a particular lens that resonates with us. And then we get stuck in a particular stream of thought...guess it's a version of confirmation bias. I'm halfway through the podcast. Not much new yet, but it is a good summary so far of where we've been.
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