All charges dropped against Jussie Smollett

well-temperedforum.groupee.net

This topic can be found at:
https://well-temperedforum.groupee.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9130004433/m/4441081366

26 March 2019, 06:05 PM

jon-nyc

All charges dropped against Jussie Smollett

Tweet from a satirical account:

“Anyone who has ever claimed that Jussie Smollett is guilty must now be prosecuted.

Lying about hate crime can never be permitted in a civilised society.”

--------------------------------
If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

26 March 2019, 06:05 PM

wtg

Cindy - Of course.

But their identities and what they look like *did* come to light. And Smollett continued to contend that he *didn't* hire them. Even if you initially believed the story (I certainly did at the onset even though a few things didn't seem quite right), the additional information about the two beefcakes made it a lot harder to accept at face value.

--------------------------------
We are all visitors to this time, this place. We are just passing through. Our purpose here is to observe, to learn, to grow, to love… and then we return home. - Australian Aboriginal proverb

Bazootiehead-in-training

26 March 2019, 06:30 PM

ShiroKuro

quote:
Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
People doing this kind of sh!t can lose the Democrats an awful lot of votes in 2020...

Ugh. No disagreement, just ugh.

--------------------------------
My piano recordings at Box.Net: https://app.box.com/s/j4rgyhn72uvluemg1m6u

26 March 2019, 08:26 PM

jon-nyc

Wow. The mayor, police, and the prosecutor handling the case all seem to think this was a crooked deal.

Local press is going to be all over this. We haven’t seen the end of this..

https://chicago.suntimes.com/n...-rahm-emanuel-react/

--------------------------------
If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

26 March 2019, 08:44 PM

Cindysphinx

Mr. Sphinx had an interesting take.

Jussie is not a minor.

There is no national security interest in play here.

So what legal basis is there to seal a criminal file?

That means CNN or anyone else could make a Freedom of Information Act request (or whatever it is called in Illinois) and get this file.

Here's a question: Why aren't the Nigerians selling their stories right about now? You'd expect them to be all over cable news or otherwise cashing in, right?

Could it be an immigration issue that makes them want to lie low? No, I think they are citizens.

Something's really off.

27 March 2019, 06:15 AM

Mikhailoh

I suspect there is just enough cash flowing around to keep this low. For now. I can't think of any other logical explanation.

Then again, assuming the situation is one of false reporting for publicity, while reprehensible it is not the crime of the century. I wonder if this might be a reaction to the 16 felony indictments.

--------------------------------
"A mob is a place where people go to get away from their conscience" Atticus Finch

27 March 2019, 07:41 AM

jon-nyc

BREAKING NEWS: Jessie Smollett accepted to USC.

--------------------------------
If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

27 March 2019, 07:59 AM

wtg

jon, where did you see that the prosecutor handling the case thinks it's a crooked deal? I missed that.

27 March 2019, 08:38 AM

ShiroKuro

quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
BREAKING NEWS: Jessie Smollett accepted to USC.

--------------------------------
My piano recordings at Box.Net: https://app.box.com/s/j4rgyhn72uvluemg1m6u

27 March 2019, 08:47 AM

jon-nyc

David Axelrod’s take:

“Unless some better explanation surfaces, here’s the lesson of this weird turn in the Smollett case:
You can contrive a hate crime, make it a national news, get caught and-if you are a well-connected celebrity-get off for $10K and have your record expunged and files sealed.”

--------------------------------
If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

27 March 2019, 09:06 AM

wtg

quote:
Originally posted by Cindysphinx:

And I keep coming back to the personal check. How did the police get that check?

From the brothers?

27 March 2019, 09:32 AM

jon-nyc

From an ABC news senior correspondent:

Celebrity justice:

Cook County clerk’s office tells @ABC they were shocked that no written motions were filed with the court in connection with today’s surprising dismissal in the Smollett case. On top of that, the case has been wiped off their database as if it never existed.”

--------------------------------
If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

27 March 2019, 09:52 AM

jon-nyc

@WTG - my bad. The prosecutor merely said they stand behind both the police investigation and the decision to bring charges, and that this move should not be interpreted as indicating Smollett didn’t fake the crime.

Emmanuel called it a whitewash of justice, cops used similar words.

--------------------------------
If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

27 March 2019, 10:11 AM

CHAS

quote:
Originally posted by ShiroKuro:
quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
BREAKING NEWS: Jessie Smollett accepted to USC.

27 March 2019, 10:14 AM

CHAS

quote:
Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
I'm just speculating, but it could be that the reason for the dismissal was an improper search or other impropriety on the part of the police.

That would mean the evidence would be suppressed, and that might mean they couldn't convict. Rather than press a case they know they would lose, they offered Jussie the chance to walk now with a bail forfeiture. Which he would be insane not to take.

They want the file sealed so their blunder won't be discovered. Jussie wants the file sealed so no one knows what the evidence was, and the cops want it sealed so they don't look bad for botching the investigation.

That's my guess.

A good guess.
That is the sort of thing that might be leaked.