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The President Can't Be Prosecuted, Even If He Murders Someone

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23 October 2019, 02:27 PM
QuirtEvans
The President Can't Be Prosecuted, Even If He Murders Someone
His lawyer told an appeals court today that, even if the President shot someone on Fifth Avenue, he can't be prosecuted.

No, really.

https://www.vox.com/2019/10/23...mmunity-mazars-vance
23 October 2019, 03:50 PM
jon-nyc
In the era we're in now, it might be the only workable solution.

I mean, until impeachment and removal.

It's hard to imagine in the near future a president from one party not being criminally investigated by AGs of the other.


Though if we go that way we might need to freeze statutes of limitations so cases against presidents don't age out while they're in office.


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23 October 2019, 08:43 PM
Steve Miller
quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
It's hard to imagine in the near future a president from one party not being criminally investigated by AGs of the other.


Do you really think so? I don't remember Obama being investigated much.

Seems to me that this problem is fairly recent.


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23 October 2019, 08:59 PM
Nina
Not necessarily investigating the Prez, but anyone in the administration. Benghazi! Emails! Benghazi! Emails! Benghazi! Benghazi!
23 October 2019, 09:13 PM
jon-nyc
Benghazi was an Obama investigation until a certain Tuesday in November of 2012


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23 October 2019, 09:49 PM
Steve Miller
The difference is that everyone knew the Benghazi thing was BS.

I-1 is guilty. He told us so himself.


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24 October 2019, 11:37 AM
Piano*Dad
Reductio ad Absurdum is usually an argument technique employed by the OTHER side. This seems like an own goal.
24 October 2019, 11:42 AM
Nina
Darryl Issa's promise to investigate the Obama administration throughout his presidency. He pretty much made good on that.

Doesn't anyone remember the investigation into Fast & Furious? That was a six year investigation that spun off several more, finding nothing. Of note, however, was a federal ruling that the WH had to respond to the GOP's subpoenas, and Holder was held in contempt of Congress (I think).

And of course Benghazi lasted years, and the email thing really doesn't seem to have ended.
24 October 2019, 11:45 AM
wtg
Actually, there were recent findings on the emails. I read about it last week and when I went to find the reference today, this popped up:

quote:
I wrote last week about what we in my office informally call "missing stories," those stories that NPR listeners and readers feel have been under-covered. Newsrooms have to set priorities, of course, and they can't cover everything. But this week's "missing story" is a particularly notable omission.

Late Friday, Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley released a letter he had received from the State Department earlier in the week, in which the department said it had concluded its investigation, begun in 2016, into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's emails. The quick takeaway from the report, as reported by AP: The investigation found "no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information." It did find that 38 current or former employees, in 91 cases, sent classified information (some of it classified after the fact) that ended up in Clinton's personal email. Some of them may face discipline. NPR intensely covered the Clinton email issue prior to the 2016 election. And it covered this most recent development in the 3-year-old saga, but you wouldn't know that from looking at NPR.org, as a reader pointed out to the Public Editor's office. There's no digital story. No newsmagazine report. Astute listeners would have heard reports in six newscasts, at 8 p.m., 9 p.m. and 11 p.m. (all ET) on Friday, Oct. 18, and at 2 a.m., 3 a.m. and 8 a.m. on Saturday, Oct. 19. Newscast transcripts are not archived online, however.

To any NPR news consumer who didn't happen to catch a newscast, most of which were in off hours, this important development in the story is invisible.


https://www.npr.org/sections/p...on-a-prominent-story


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