Rear Admiral Collin Green ...

24 November 2019, 10:56 AM

Piano*Dad

So, Collin Green AND the secretary of the navy have real spines.

Unlike Lindsay Graham and most of the rest of the GOP.

Challenge Trump to Fire Them

quote:
"The secretary of the Navy and the admiral who leads the SEALs have threatened to resign or be fired if plans to expel a commando from the elite unit in a war crimes case are halted by President Trump, administration officials said Saturday."

24 November 2019, 05:12 PM

Axtremus

Navy secretary has been fired:
https://www.washingtonpost.com...sal-navy-seals-case/

24 November 2019, 06:57 PM

Piano*Dad

Yes, and it remains to be seen whether Esper fired him for being too close to Trump's dictum, or because Spencer challenged Trump's decision in the first place.

And what of Read Admiral Green, who has also gone to the mat over the Navy's capacity to discipline its own.

25 November 2019, 10:48 AM

Piano*Dad

Case Closed

Until, perhaps, the next Sec Def reopens it. I hope s(he) does, though such an action will clearly agitate some people. Especially if she then shuffles personnel and takes away benefits to send very clear signals to the military that some decision makers chose the wrong course of action when caught between rock and hard place. I would sympathize with them for just following orders, but support demoting/reassigning/disciplining and other public messages back to the military that they should have defended their processes more vigorously against Trump administration interference.

25 November 2019, 11:03 AM

QuirtEvans

quote:
Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
Yes, and it remains to be seen whether Esper fired him for being too close to Trump's dictum, or because Spencer challenged Trump's decision in the first place.

And what of Read Admiral Green, who has also gone to the mat over the Navy's capacity to discipline its own.

From the Tweeter-in-Chief:

"I was not pleased with the way that Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher’s trial was handled by the Navy. He was treated very badly but, despite this, was completely exonerated on all major charges. I then restored Eddie’s rank. Likewise, large cost overruns from past administration’s.........contracting procedures were not addressed to my satisfaction. Therefore, Secretary of the Navy Richard Spencer’s services have been terminated by Secretary of Defense Mark Esper. I thank Richard for his service & commitment. Eddie will retire peacefully with all of the.........honors that he has earned, including his Trident Pin. Admiral and now Ambassador to Norway Ken Braithwaite will be nominated by me to be the new Secretary of the Navy. A man of great achievement and success, I know Ken will do an outstanding job!"

25 November 2019, 11:16 AM

wtg

quote:
Ironically, Gallagher's lawyer confirmed to ABC News that before Spencer's firing became public Gallagher had decided to voluntarily relinquish his Trident for the good of the SEALs. Esper has now decided that Gallagher should be allowed to retire and keep his Trident pin.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politic...5_null_headlines_hed

25 November 2019, 04:20 PM

pianojuggler

So, is I-1 pardoning members of the military who have been convicted of war crimes to press the point that he alone, as Dear Leader, has the authority to reward those who please him... like in the next civil war that I-1 dreams of triggering?

25 November 2019, 06:24 PM

wtg

He's ~~pandering for votes~~ standing up for the little guys .

quote:
Trump called Gallagher "one of our ultimate fighters."

"Somebody has their back, and it's called the President of the US, OK?" Trump said in the Oval Office, adding, "I think what I'm doing is sticking up for our armed forces."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/25...aftermath/index.html

If Obama had done this, we would have heard about how military law and discipline are paramount, and how a commander-in-chief with no military experience shouldn't meddle with those who do know what they're doing...