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How the way you walk could be used to identify some types of dementia

This is really interesting and reminds me of the Japanese research I heard about that argues that, as we age, walking is one of the most important things that we can do for brain health.

So, maybe there will come a time when walking is used for the diagnosis, and walking-training is the prescription for treatment.

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Hmmmm... It seems that Individual 1 might fit one of these.

Have you noticed his posture recently? Weird.


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I watched when Bob went to the neurologist because of his slowness and walking.
His feet slapped the ground.
Before Bob completed his second step in front of the doctor, the doc told him to sit down.
Then the doc prescribed the medication for Parkinson's.
Walking characteristics can identify more than dementia. Parkinson's victims often become what I call demented. Not sure if that term is used.


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I think the popular term is "cognitively impaired".


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It seems to me they'd better be careful making these diagnoses. I can think of all kind of alternate reasons why people might walk funny -- untreated injuries, arthritis, inflammations, surgeries...


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One of my son's had a neuropsych exam while a kid and one of the questions was "Does he walk up on his toes?"

Apparently many on the autism spectrum tend to do that.

Not that your gate would be the only way to diagnose, but it just another clue along with other symptoms.


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It seems to me they'd better be careful making these diagnoses. I can think of all kind of alternate reasons why people might walk funny -- untreated injuries, arthritis, inflammations, surgeries...


Good point. Although, other causes could probably be ruled, or at least taken into account.

Also, this is where it might be helpful to have some kind of baseline. Say, info about how you walk from when your in your 20s, and then every decade after.

BL, I hadn't heard that comment about walking.

But it's interesting, if you look around, you start to notice that gait is very individualized. At least to my uneducated eye.


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I wonder how they'd diagnose him:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-eCfaGpyX8


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It seems to me they'd better be careful making these diagnoses. I can think of all kind of alternate reasons why people might walk funny -- untreated injuries, arthritis, inflammations, surgeries...
...bone spurs...

Especially bone spurs that magically healed once one passed draft age.


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...bone spurs...

Especially bone spurs that magically healed once one passed draft age.

Big Grin

I recall a news story from a few years ago, maybe British, about analyzing various health problems from a person's gait and walking speed. But it was more generalized than this Alzheimer's/dementia study.


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Caveat: I read the article very quickly. But it does seem like there may be some confusion between walking and dementia, or at least a strong case of chicken or the egg. Does the dementia somehow cause these walking differences? Is there something else that's causing both? As a diagnostic tool, etc.?
 
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I've been keeping an eye on the Twitter threads positing that Trump has dementia. Never fear, I have not morphed into full-blown conspiracy theorist, but some of the folks on those threads make a pretty rational argument that they illustrate with the very noticeable deterioration of Trump's gait.

Even an amateur can see that he is unable to walk straight unless he is flanked closely by Melania or one of his other handlers. He often drags one or both feet as if unable to lift his toes. (To be fair, he probably wears lifts in his shoes that might hamper this motion, although I doubt they would affect his ability to walk straight.) One of his legs often turns out awkwardly, sometimes as part of a full-body twitch. And there are more examples, but if I type a laundry list, I will start looking like a conspiracy theorist.

There are people on the threads with medical backgrounds and with family histories of various dementia. They say that deterioration of the brain shows itself in various physical issues, like a disordered gait, positing that one can make a good guess on how far along his supposed dementia might be based on his balance and motion issues.

I know there are people here who have had family members with dementias, so I'm interested in your observations. If anyone wants me to point them to some of the videos of Trump's mobility issues, let me know. Otherwise, I won't give the conspiracy theorists more traffic.


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Interesting article. Yes, he shows many symptoms associated with untreated syphilis, but his father also died of Alzheimer's Disease. I'm not qualified to do much more than read about it, but I think there's little argument that something is wrong with his mind. I also think it goes beyond mental illness, although his behavior makes a pretty good case for that, too.


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The way you walk is certainly a factor in life expectancy.

In my case, you can tell by the way I use my walk, I’m a woman’s man, no time to talk.

Or are you all too damn young to know what I’m talking about…
 
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