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Vaccination day - what not to do

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28 January 2021, 10:05 AM
wtg
Vaccination day - what not to do
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COVID-19 vaccines from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna are being offered to an increasing number of people. Vaccine recipients typically experience minimal side effects -- the most common being temporary pain and swelling at the injection site, fevers, chills, tiredness, muscle aches and pains and headaches.

While these side effects are generally a minor nuisance to most people, some attempt to prevent them by taking common over-the-counter pain relievers like acetaminophen (Tylenol) or ibuprofen (e.g., Motrin, Advil) beforehand. However, experts said these medications might not just dull the pain, but they may dull the vaccine from fully working.

"We do not recommend premedication with ibuprofen or Tylenol before COVID-19 vaccines due to the lack of data on how it impacts the vaccine-induced antibody responses," Dr. Simone Wildes, an infectious disease specialist at South Shore Medical Center and a member of Massachusetts' COVID-19 Vaccine Advisory Group, told ABC News.

The side effects from the vaccines are caused by activation of the immune system, meaning that the immune system is working and starting to build immunity to COVID-19 -- this is what we want. These pain relievers may prevent parts of the immune system from working and slow down the immune response. There is a theory that taking these medications before immunization may reduce their effectiveness.


https://6abc.com/pain-reliever...fore-covid/10066258/


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28 January 2021, 10:21 AM
jodi
I wondered about that.


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28 January 2021, 02:18 PM
rontuner
Good to know - thanks!


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28 January 2021, 03:02 PM
CHAS
One site advised against antihistamines because the symptoms of anaphylactic shock will not show on the skin.
I had a generic claritin the afternoon before the shot. Took a Benedryl an hour after the shot when my skin started to tingle because my face was swelling. The Benedryl took care of it quickly.
May stay in the waiting area for 30 rather than the suggested 15 minutes after the next one.


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28 January 2021, 07:41 PM
Nina
Can you take ibuprofen, etc., AFTER the shot? I don't understand why it would be different. If it's suppressing your antibody responses, then it's suppressing your antibody responses. I don't understand why taking it before is a problem, when (presumably) taking it afterward is A-OK.
28 January 2021, 07:44 PM
wtg
Stop taking them a day or two before getting the shot and don't take them for a few days after.

https://www.radio.com/kywnewsr...ing-covid-19-vaccine


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28 January 2021, 07:50 PM
Steve Miller
What about Naproxen?


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28 January 2021, 07:58 PM
wtg
I couldn't find anything specific about naproxen but I'm guessing that all anti-inflammatories should be avoided. I imagine that includes aspirin, too.

Here's discussion about Tylenol and aspirin and flu vaccinations. They mention COX inhibitors, and naproxen is in that class of meds.

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With flu season in full swing and the threat of H1N1 looming, demand for vaccines is at an all-time high. Although those vaccines are expected to be effective, University of Missouri researchers have found further evidence that some over-the-counter drugs, such as aspirin and Tylenol, that inhibit certain enzymes could impact the effectiveness of vaccines.

"If you're taking aspirin regularly, which many people do for cardiovascular treatment, or acetaminophen (Tylenol) for pain and fever and get a flu shot, there is a good chance that you won't have a good antibody response," said Charles Brown, associate professor of veterinary pathobiology in the MU College of Veterinary Medicine. "These drugs block the enzyme COX-1, which works in tissues throughout the body. We have found that if you block COX-1, you might be decreasing the amount of antibodies your body is producing, and you need high amounts of antibodies to be protected."

COX enzymes play important roles in the regulation of the immune system. The role of these enzymes is not yet understood completely, and medications that inhibit them may have adverse side effects. Recent research has discovered that drugs that inhibit COX enzymes, such as COX-2, have an impact on the effectiveness of vaccines. Brown's research indicates that inhibiting COX-1, which is present in tissues throughout the body, such as the brain or kidneys, could also impact vaccines' effectiveness.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/r.../12/091201152648.htm


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28 January 2021, 08:55 PM
Steve Miller
Darn. Thought I had a workaround.


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29 January 2021, 09:12 AM
wtg
More experts chime in:

https://www.usatoday.com/story...-cdc-who/4290975001/

I'm not one of the folks who takes these meds on a regular basis for chronic pain issues or headaches. I tend not to get sick very often (maybe an occasional cold), and when I do I just kick back and rest.

I'll be skipping the pain relievers before and after (any) vaccination unless the side effects are ghastly. The body is doing its thing and intuitively it seems to me that tamping down that immune response isn't the best thing to do.

Guess we'll all have to decide for ourselves.


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