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NY Times Endorses Both Warren and Klobuchar

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20 January 2020, 10:28 AM
QuirtEvans
NY Times Endorses Both Warren and Klobuchar
https://www.nytimes.com/intera...r_axiosam&stream=top
20 January 2020, 11:54 AM
Nina
quote:
Many Democratic voters are concerned first and foremost about who can beat Mr. Trump. But with a crowded field and with traditional polling in tatters, that calculation calls for a hefty dose of humility about anyone’s ability to foretell what voters want.


They should also add concerns about gerrymandering, partisan purging of voter polls, and hacking.

Their op-ed is worth reading, even if you don't agree with their endorsements. But what editor was asleep at the wheel when they didn't redline this sentence? "There has been a wildfire burning in Australia larger than Switzerland"? Talk about clunky. How about, "In Australia, a wildfire larger than Switzerland has been burning." NNTTM. Big Grin
20 January 2020, 01:56 PM
ShiroKuro
I am terrified for this election, and the NYT choosing to endorse two candidates seems like a bad sign to me. Their editorial board couldn't agree. My mother pointed out that this points to the precariousness of the election.

I continue to fantasize that two of the top candidates will agree to share the ticket and that this will be the magic bullet at election time. So, maybe a Warren-Klobuchar ticket?


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20 January 2020, 02:29 PM
CHAS
The coming election makes me want to run and hide in a more stable place.
Argentina? Kenya? Myanmar?


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20 January 2020, 06:09 PM
jon-nyc
Maybe an alternate post title would be 'NYT Editorial Board Can't Agree On A Candidate'


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20 January 2020, 06:14 PM
QuirtEvans
That'd be totally untrue. They agreed on a candidate ... they don't want Bernie. They agreed on another candidate ... they don't want Biden. And they also agreed that they don't want Buttigieg.

You're just mad because a substantial portion of them like Warren.
20 January 2020, 06:16 PM
pianojuggler
I continue to fantasize that I-1 will be hit by a meteor.

That may be our only hope.


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20 January 2020, 08:25 PM
jon-nyc
Nate Silver before the endorsement:

quote:
NYT endorsement odds:

3:4 Warren
5:1 Biden
8:1 Bernie
10:1 they endorse no one or multiple candidates or something dumb like that
12:1 Klobuchar
12:1 Buttigieg
20:1 Bloomberg
100:1 Bennet
50:1 field



Nate Silver after:

quote:
"Something dumb like that" is the winner


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20 January 2020, 08:40 PM
Horace
It's a nod to sanity and away from pure hatred and righteousness. Pure hatred and righteousness would endorse Warren, who won't win against Trump. Klobuchar could actually win, even if she is not the candidate who appeals to hatred and righteousness.

Not surprising that the NYT couldn't make a decision between the two.
20 January 2020, 09:50 PM
Axtremus
In 2016, Trump at the top of the GOP ticket gets the pissed off middle America working class votes, then add Pence to get the Christian Right votes.

For 2020, Warren at the top of the ticket can get the liberal and progressive votes, then add Klobuchar to get the moderate and anti-Trump conservative votes.

Might work.


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21 January 2020, 04:24 PM
Daniel
Cop-out.

Endorse one.

New York Times.

Jeez.
21 January 2020, 04:27 PM
Daniel
quote:
Originally posted by Nina:
quote:
Many Democratic voters are concerned first and foremost about who can beat Mr. Trump. But with a crowded field and with traditional polling in tatters, that calculation calls for a hefty dose of humility about anyone’s ability to foretell what voters want.


They should also add concerns about gerrymandering, partisan purging of voter polls, and hacking.

Their op-ed is worth reading, even if you don't agree with their endorsements. But what editor was asleep at the wheel when they didn't redline this sentence? "There has been a wildfire burning in Australia larger than Switzerland"? Talk about clunky. How about, "In Australia, a wildfire larger than Switzerland has been burning." NNTTM. Big Grin


Big Grin
21 January 2020, 05:41 PM
jon-nyc
Mad props for the headline.


A Heartbreaking Endorsement of Staggering Pretense


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21 January 2020, 06:31 PM
Nina
Nice.
23 January 2020, 01:13 PM
kluurs
I was reading a discussion elsewhere where a person posted his opinion regarding the NYT endorsement and then added "but I'll vote for whatever sentient mammal the Democrats nominate." I thought that captured my sentiments.