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quote:Originally posted by rontuner:
I'm troubled by the hospital question. It seems diversionary and leading...
"Pay no attention to profits in the insurance and pharmacy industries, how will you cut spending to the systems that take care of patients?"
quote:Originally posted by QuirtEvans:quote:Originally posted by rontuner:
I'm troubled by the hospital question. It seems diversionary and leading...
"Pay no attention to profits in the insurance and pharmacy industries, how will you cut spending to the systems that take care of patients?"
You don't think pharmacy takes care of patients? Or out-of-hospital doctors?
I think the point is, we've all focused extensively on insurance and pharma, but hospitals are still the biggest number. What about that?
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quote:Originally posted by rontuner:quote:Originally posted by QuirtEvans:quote:Originally posted by rontuner:
I'm troubled by the hospital question. It seems diversionary and leading...
"Pay no attention to profits in the insurance and pharmacy industries, how will you cut spending to the systems that take care of patients?"
You don't think pharmacy takes care of patients? Or out-of-hospital doctors?
I think the point is, we've all focused extensively on insurance and pharma, but hospitals are still the biggest number. What about that?
No, pharma supplies medicines that doctors prescribe while taking care of patients...
Yes, hospitals are the biggest number, but only a part of the picture. More information is needed - how much of that number is for ER room care - how much of those ER visits could be better served somewhere else? How much of the whole number is for end of life care - are there better choices for those patients? But leading the question away from looking at the whole system seems to indicate a bias to focus on cutting in a specific area of the whole.
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quote:Originally posted by QuirtEvans:
On health care:
You've all criticized drug companies and insurance companies, but the single biggest chunk of U.S. health care spending goes to hospitals — about $1 trillion a year. Is that too much? How will you cut it?
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quote:Originally posted by rontuner:quote:Originally posted by QuirtEvans:quote:Originally posted by rontuner:
I'm troubled by the hospital question. It seems diversionary and leading...
"Pay no attention to profits in the insurance and pharmacy industries, how will you cut spending to the systems that take care of patients?"
You don't think pharmacy takes care of patients? Or out-of-hospital doctors?
I think the point is, we've all focused extensively on insurance and pharma, but hospitals are still the biggest number. What about that?
No, pharma supplies medicines that doctors prescribe to take care of patients...
Yes, hospitals are the biggest number, but only a part of the picture. More information is needed - how much of that number is for ER room care - how much of those ER visits could be better served somewhere else? How much of the whole number is for end of life care - are there better choices for those patients? But leading the question away from looking at the whole system seems to indicate a bias to focus on cutting in a specific area of the whole.
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quote:Originally posted by Daniel:
Do you have a link, Quirt?
quote:Originally posted by Mikhailoh:
Stephen Kruiser gives the post-debate recap (ahead of the debate)
1. Orange man bad
2. Free government money tree
3. Impeach and stuff
4. Tulsi looks totes fab
5. Medicare for all because Obamacare sucked but wait no it was awesome we just need something more awesome omg we're all going to die
6. Seriously though, Tulsi
quote:Originally posted by Mikhailoh:
Stephen Kruiser gives the post-debate recap (ahead of the debate)
1. Orange man bad
2. Free government money tree
3. Impeach and stuff
4. Tulsi looks totes fab
5. Medicare for all because Obamacare sucked but wait no it was awesome we just need something more awesome omg we're all going to die
6. Seriously though, Tulsi