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This question has been lurking in the back of my brain for decades. Every once in a while it wanders to the fore. This morning in the shower was one of those times.

Donald Fagen. The Nightfly. First track: "I.G.Y." (International Geophysical Year).

A few verses in is the line:

Just machines that make big decisions
Programmed by fellas with passion and vision


In this lyric, does "just" mean "only" or "fair"?


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This question has been lurking in the back of my brain for decades. Every once in a while it wanders to the fore. This morning in the shower was one of those times.

Donald Fagen. The Nightfly. First track: "I.G.Y." (International Geophysical Year).

A few verses in is the line:

Just machines that make big decisions
Programmed by fellas with passion and vision


In this lyric, does "just" mean "only" or "fair"?


(b) Both


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I saw a woman at Costco who was wearing a T-shirt that said "I can remember lyrics from an obscure song from the sixties, but I can't remember why I came into the kitchen".


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In this lyric, does "just" mean "only" or "fair"?


Unanswerable without the context of the entire song/lyrics.


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The song is a snarky take on a utopian future, a counter to the futurist event called the International Geophysical Year in 1957-58.

Standing tough under stars and stripes, we can tell
This dream's in sight
You've got to admit it
At this point in time that it's clear
The future looks bright

On that train, all graphite and glitter
Undersea by rail
90 minutes from New York to Paris
By '76* we'll be a-ok

What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free
What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free

Get your ticket to that wheel in space** while there's time
The fix is in
You'll be a witness to that game of chance in the sky
You know we've got to win

Here at home we'll play in the city
Powered by the sun
Perfect weather for a streamlined world
There'll be spandex jackets, one for everyone

What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free
What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free

On that train, all graphite and glitter
Undersea by rail
90 minutes from New York to Paris
More leisure for artists everywhere

Just machines that make big decisions
Programmed by fellas with passion and vision

We'll be clean when the work day's done
We'll be eternally free, yes, and eternally young

What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free
What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free


* The International Geophysical Year was 1987-58. So, he's referring to 1976.

** The space habitat that Will Lee conjured up in his sci-fi: a giant wheel in space that spins to create artificial gravity.


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So, reading the whole thing, I would say "just" means only/solely... But then again, the interpretation of fair or morally right would also fit.

I believe the best conclusion is: strategically ambivalent.

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I think just meaning “fair” is out of character for the vocabulary and syntax of the rest of the lyrics.


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I definitely read it as "fair minded" machines. Otherwise the syntax is too weird.

Plus calling the machines fair minded adds to the irony.


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