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English is not normal

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18 September 2019, 11:45 AM
wtg
English is not normal
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English speakers know that their language is odd. So do people saddled with learning it non-natively. The oddity that we all perceive most readily is its spelling, which is indeed a nightmare. In countries where English isn’t spoken, there is no such thing as a ‘spelling bee’ competition. For a normal language, spelling at least pretends a basic correspondence to the way people pronounce the words. But English is not normal.

Spelling is a matter of writing, of course, whereas language is fundamentally about speaking. Speaking came long before writing, we speak much more, and all but a couple of hundred of the world’s thousands of languages are rarely or never written. Yet even in its spoken form, English is weird. It’s weird in ways that are easy to miss, especially since Anglophones in the United States and Britain are not exactly rabid to learn other languages. But our monolingual tendency leaves us like the proverbial fish not knowing that it is wet. Our language feels ‘normal’ only until you get a sense of what normal really is.


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18 September 2019, 03:10 PM
jodi
Fascinating. (That word comes from Latin and French words that mean witchcraft).

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18 September 2019, 07:52 PM
pianojuggler
I sometimes teach a technical writing class. Most students are native English speakers. I start by telling them that English is one of the hardest languages to learn as a second (or third or fourth) language. Yet, it is the “lingua franca” (meaning, of course, “the default language”, but, literally, “the French language”) of aviation.

Spelling, grammar, and, worst of all, idioms, are a struggle.

If you cut a tree down, then cut it up, how come it’s not back where it started?

I spent an hour today explaining our standard for the use of “can” and “may”. But first, I had to explain the difference between “use” and “usage”.

Le sigh.


I recently developed a bit about the difference between “few” and “a few”. For native Russian speakers, this is a real hurdle since they pretty much do not have articles.

It actually came from a question passed to me from a high school English teacher in Moscow about the difference between “this is sh!t” (this is bad) and “this is the sh!t” (this is good).


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28 September 2019, 06:19 AM
Daniel
ROTFLMAO